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Moving to Thailand will turn you Gay

Notice how many gays, lady boys, toms, lesbians there are in Thailand? Have you also noticed how many straight heterosexual guys there are that come to Thailand and end up sleeping with men? Now when I was young I was pretty prejudice, if we thought some kid at our school was gay or anyone gay for that matter we’d kick the shit out of them make their life miserable to the point they’d have no friends basically a living hell. So in the west we’ll have this saying in the closet and out of the closet yet in Thailand they don’t have a closet you can basically be whoever you want without ridicule and without a bunch of homophobes beeting you up.

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Thailand isn’t the only country like this either amazingly China has the same culture of Gay and lesbians as Thailand does in fact it’s probably even more open then it is here. In China there’s so many single dudes being gay may be the only option and since there’s so many single girls in Thailand stands to reason why there is so many lesbians as well. But what about all the foriegners who come here. I honestly beleieve that a lot of dudes come to Thailand have never even thought about being gay then arrive in Thailand and somehow change their sexuality.

Now I’m not gay no interest in that and even if it were Ploy the best looking ladyboy in Thailand I gotta be completely open and say I just would never go there. But Thailand does something to people, I believe coming to Thailand can make you gay.

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Earlier I mentioned how in the west we’d beet up gay kids and even if you didn’t do it yourself you know other people who did. Damn must be hard on them they probably should have lived in Thailand because at Thai schools you don’t get ridiculed as much as you do in the west and certainly you don’t have to look over your shoulder that some dude is gonna crack you on the skull because of your own sexuality. It’s not really a Thai Trait to really hate on someone else, Thai’s are no way near as agressive as we are in the west!

I know a guy we used to hang out a bunch we’d go on double dates with really hot thai girls and there was never any hint he was gay or liked ladyboys until one day we’re up on Tapae road on our way home late at night and he stops and picks up a ladyboy. Before I could get a chance to ask him what the F’ are you doing he speads off and enjoys the night with his man dressed as a woman lover.

Now you know this is Thailand and I’m trying to live Thai so I don’t want to judge or anything but it just makes me curious you know. Does coming to Thailand mean that you might become gay? Now I’m not gay so I don’t really understand if your born gay or you later on decide to switch or whether or not both is possible all I know is  that guys are coming here guys who were never ever gay arrive in Thailand then go have sex with men.


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About Chris

Chris founded Living Thai and author of the books Learn the The Thai Alphabet and How to make money in Thailand also the Blueprint for Living in Thailand. Chris started this blog with the aim of educating westerners on how to have the best time in Thailand, to make new friends and to vent his frustrations Chris is also fluent in both written and spoken Thai.

31 Responses to Moving to Thailand will turn you Gay

  1. Jimmy Page August 26, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    I went through a LB phase. No penetration but some memorable BJ. The truth is, they make themselves very available and there’s zero stress. You come, I go. They don’t ask about $$. Just happy to be there.

    • Brian Sumpter August 28, 2012 at 10:56 am #

      Some of them sure want money. And if you offer them a deal, they expect you go through with it. They just cracked down on them on the Beaches here in Pattaya, and 30 of the 50 they arrested were katoeys.

  2. Johnnie Walker August 26, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    Chris you seem to be a little confused (just like some of the guys?) lol

    A “man dressed as a woman” is a transvestite.

    Most Thai Ladyboys (transexuals)[katoeys] are transgenders have something called gender dysphoria. i.e. They have female chromosones and “feel” female but are trapped in a mans body. It happens all around the world, but in some countries such as Brazil & Thailand there is less social stigma attached to confronting ones feelings and doing something about it. It is not something a person asks to be born with – the condition can be extremely distressing often ending in self harm and/or suicide.

    A few “act femine” (without ever intending undergoing surgery) purely for earning potential as sex workers.

    Many guys are curious about gay sex, even if they have followed the social norm. of marriage, 2.4 kids, Volvo Estate & dog for many years.
    Going with a LB they subconsciously believe it doesn’t count as gay sex as its not really a man – and, reading the above, perhaps they’re right?

  3. Patrick August 26, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    It’s very simple, Thai culture lacks the sexual sterotyping that we all experience in the west. You literally can be who you want without people judging. It’s been proved that the more violent your inclination to gay sex the more likely you have something to hide. Westerners visiting Thailand soon pick up on this and feel able to express their sexuality to its full. I don’t think it makes them less heterosexual just like sleeping with the odd woman doesn’t mean I’m not gay. Wouldn’t the world be a better place if we didn’t feel we had to comply to other peoples expectations!

    • Chris August 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

      In some ways Thailand is more of a free country than the west.

  4. Bren August 26, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    I see that you have not yet come to terms with your homophobia. lol. What you have to realize is that all of us, to some extent, have a range of sexual interests. In Thailand it is just easier to explore them. The descriptors ‘gay’ or ‘straight’ are just too limiting.

    • Chris August 26, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

      The title was kinda catchy so I used that, honestly I don’t mind what people do it’s something people will witness in Thailand and worth sharing. thanks for the comment.

  5. MisterHE August 26, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

    We call them “Men with Tits” not Ladyboys … they aren’t lady’s (and most aren’t boys). I think if you start asking guys (who think they are otherwise hetro) … “Hey dude … why are you kissing that man with tits?” … they might think otherwise!

    • Patrick August 27, 2012 at 11:26 am #

      You might use that term, 99% of others use the term lady boys as it is probably closer to the medical condition these people suffer from. Your ignorance and prejudice speak volumes! Ok it might not float your boat, or mine for that matter, but let guys that like it get on with it without your comment.

  6. Forrest Mallard August 27, 2012 at 4:54 am #

    “Now when I was young I was pretty prejudice, if we thought some kid at our school was gay or anyone gay for that matter we’d kick the shit out of them make their life miserable to the point they’d have no friends basically a living hell.”

    And you brag about this, so proud.. while it is becoming more and more evident that 2 out of 3 teen suicides in the west are due to the ignorant bullys like you.

    • Chris August 27, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

      I’m not perfect I don’t regret what I’ve done but hey I just tell you guys how I see it, no one is perfect.

      • Patrick August 28, 2012 at 8:57 am #

        Bullying, especially because of someones sexuality has long lasting reprocusions at the very least you should regret those actions. I am sure the people you bullied still carry the scars!!!

  7. mark August 27, 2012 at 9:02 am #

    I have a gay nephew who lives in China, it is not accepted there as it is in Thailand.

    • Chris August 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

      But there is still a hell of a lot of gay dudes in China bro.

  8. Dr. Taco August 27, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    Are you kidding me? First I was worried about Dengue fever in CM this season, now your telling me I have to worry about waking up Gay also? WTF?

    Seriously though, didn’t the ancient Maya predict everyone would tern gay right before the end of the world in December 2012? Part of the “cats and dogs living together” stage right before the very end . . . .

  9. A. Voute August 28, 2012 at 3:14 am #

    My points are:
    1) I think you can not change your sexual identity no matter how badly you want it. You have to deal with it.
    2) You should distinguish between people’s behavior and people’s sexual identity.

    ad 1) So many people (tried to) commit suicide, were / are beaten or killed for their sexual desires which they could not change.
    – gays (nazi Germany, Iran at present)
    – submissive people (bdsm)
    – pedophiles (I think there is no other option than castrating them because every therapy will be in vain).
    – transsexuals (outside Thailand most of them go through a lot of misery)

    ad 2) For decades I was to shy to talk to the ladies I liked. Therefore I had sex and slept with men. Of course you had sworn I was gay but I am not. I worship the ladies I fall in love with and they despise me for it. I do not care if you think I am gay or at least bisexual because I slept with men.

    – What do you think happened on ships with an only male crew that made journeys lasting for months in past centuries? What do you think happens in prisons in the US? Straight men that rape straight men. Straight men that have themselves fucked by straight men for protection.

    – If guys that were married for years (and you considered straight) “all of a sudden” turn to men they might have been gay (or at least bisexual) from birth but could not admit it (I know several people like that).

  10. Brian Sumpter August 28, 2012 at 11:01 am #

    An interesting perspective, we have a Thai gay friend, and I asked what he thought of katoeys. He scrunched his nose and said he thought they were too bitchy, he preferred men.

    As long as you know what you are dealing with, they can be good company, and you don’t have to worry about getting tempted if you are married.

  11. Jai Dee August 29, 2012 at 1:17 am #

    Interesting comments
    Personally my physical attractions have always been focused towards real females !
    No judgements here…….it’s just that after 50+years on this earth I have been realizing that my opinion is just that…and nothing more…..live and let live..”.leben und leben lassen'” is a far easier .
    Cheers
    All

  12. BKKLifer September 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    I’ve seen this a million times – macho guys who keep repeating they are not gay but don’t get why others are. Those are closet homos that don’t have the cahones to step out and man-up.

    Another way you can spot them is, guys that go out drinking with the lads, football matches with the lads, nights out with the lads. Hold on a second! whats this? Sorry love i’m out with the lads tonight. I guarantee they are partially gay but they just don’t know it and are messed up inside from Western machismo syndrome.

    Thousands of years ago in ancient Egypt men were pretty much all queer as a 9 bob note. They buggered the hell out of each other by the River Nile with their opium pipes and only used women as baby machines. (its true i tell you) So brotherly love has always been with us, just check out the eye liner they used to wear. Homo is in our genes!

    I’ve seen this is Mexico too, I lived there for some time and that’s a very Macho country. One of my friends was gay there (cowboy hat’n all) and he took us to a gay bar. Unbelievable, the bar was full of Strapping macho guys that i guarantee you would never imagine were gay, Rodeo guys, they would knock your head off in a bar brawl, and some were married to woman just to save face. But secretly here they all were Raging bulls, but gay as toast!

    So why do guys turn gay in Thailand?
    It’s simple – They don’t – They were already gay or Bi before they came here. They just didn’t know it or did’t face up to the possibility. After a while here they just peeled the prejudice and narrow-minded western fears away.

    As my gay sister once said to me, you don’t know what your missing until you try.

    I think a great deal of Westerners are repressed gays, but somewhere back in their deepest darkest youth, perhaps when they saw the gay kids in school getting beaten on, They quickly realized (Hell im not gay, no way! yes i’m not gonna be gay in this place that’s for sure) and the closet is born, .

    Fact – all men have a g-spot – and its up our anus!
    so what are we missing out on?

    For those of us who are completely at one with their sexuality, we don’t care what society thinks about us, if our mates will ditch us if they see us switching it up. We don’t need to worry about our fathers or mothers having an opinion, or fathom why they suddenly turn gay, or jump on lady boys, we get it.

    For me i started as straight as an arrow, and was absolutely in no way attracted to men in any way. Today however, i am still absolutely in no way attracted to the male form, infact i’m 110% not gay. And the very thought makes me judder.

    But a lady boy, hmmm – well i can assure you they are not men, perhaps they started off as boys yes, but they are not men. And not women, they are a completely new sex to explore, and after you have bedded a few thousand women, its just a nice change to try something a little different from time to time. But don’t be dismayed if your first time turns into a dissaster. I had quite a few over the years and my first few i was convinced, yes im not gay and i dont like LB’s Then i tried a few more, and gradually i felt more confident in what needed to be done to enjoy ones self.

    Its like training your body and mind, you can pretty much train it to think and do anything you like. But being gay is definitely a genetic thing, as is being bi-sexual. But liking ladyboys i think is a straight thing, that requires some mental Jedi tricks and experimental mindset, but its still an attraction to the female form, except the female form knows Jedi tricks that real women just don’t get.
    Peace x

    • Cat August 10, 2013 at 11:32 pm #

      A “completely new sex”? Really? Yes, literally, because what you actually mean is gender, not sex. So, please explain – how is it that humans are evolving or developing a new gender, other than male and female?

      ” For me i started as straight as an arrow, and was absolutely in no way attracted to men in any way. Today however, i am still absolutely in no way attracted to the male form, infact i’m 110% not gay. And the very thought makes me judder.

      But a lady boy, hmmm – well i can assure you they are not men, perhaps they started off as boys yes, but they are not men. And not women, they are a completely new sex to explore, and after you have bedded a few thousand women, its just a nice change to try something a little different from time to time. But don’t be dismayed if your first time turns into a dissaster. I had quite a few over the years and my first few i was convinced, yes im not gay and i dont like LB’s Then i tried a few more, and gradually i felt more confident in what needed to be done to enjoy ones self. ”
      …etc.

      Not homosexual, then how come you enjoy playing with other mens’ penises or them playing with yours? If it is anal sex you’re referring to (and i suppose it is, because you claim that men have “G-spots” in their anuses, or lower bowels) then how is it different from anal sex with a woman?

      There is no “G-spot” in the lower bowel. (So far as i know.) The purpose of it is for excreting feces from the bowel. If you have scientific evidence, let us know. Not just claiming “Fact”.

      Ancient Egyptians: Eyeliner or some or other face paint has nothing to do with it. Maybe, in that culture, they thought of it as simply making the eyes more attractive, generally.

      So much of what you say makes it quite clear that you are actually homo, even if somewhat confused. (After all, it is a somewhat confused business, anyway.)

  13. Jayvee February 15, 2013 at 2:16 am #

    I don’t think living in Thailand has something to do with being gay. I think, being gay is inborn and the environment has nothing to do with it. It’s just that closets are afraid of being rejected and since Thailand do not curse or fully accepts anyone regardless of their gender, it is easier for closets to finally go out in the open.

  14. Point_Blank March 4, 2013 at 2:49 am #

    I think a lot of it comes down to two things:
    1) becoming jaded with the whole nightlife scene here, I have been coming here for 20 years – simply a desire to try something different
    2) getting tired of women and their crap

    I have never been with a guy or a ladyboy but to a degree I can understand those who have.

  15. rimmer April 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

    At the end of the day when they get going they will stink of man sweat. I do not like man sweat because im not gay. I like the scent of a woman.

    each to there own.

    I have no problem with chutney ferrets

  16. curaecivm June 6, 2013 at 9:43 am #

    If you notice the culture–Buddhism — doesn’t swaddle everyone with all that nasty moral guilt about sexuality and evil, the way Christianity does (western ideology) so there’s no reason to feel “bad” about gay feelings. One way that’s evident is there have been no replies on this topic invoking God or any other such nonsense. Had this topic appeared on a western-oriented blog, the God-lovers would be talking about Satin’s influence and punishment in Hell, and all that Christian bullshit. That’s just not part of the culture here. Thus where there is no Christianity, there is no shame or guilt. Life is good. Go Thailand!

    • Cat August 10, 2013 at 11:16 pm #

      i agree with you but i just want to point out that it is not only Christianity (or false, distorted Christianity.) There is Islam and Jewism (or whatever they call it, maybe it’s a kind of secret.) They are sometimes known as Abrahamic religions.

      i said “false, distorted Christianity” because most of it (their preaching, their jargon) seems to have little to do with what Jesus was trying to teach.

  17. spinoff September 25, 2013 at 8:12 pm #

    Alot of gays in china

  18. jillyjuju November 1, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    Can anyone tell me why it is my best gay friend goes to Thailand twice a year so he can sleep with Thai girls? Not ladyboys, I mean actual girls. He takes his boyfriend with him and they have hotel room parties, but only he dips his wick…. I don’t understand it :(

    • Chris November 13, 2013 at 3:35 pm #

      Find a new friend.

    • Bren November 13, 2013 at 3:56 pm #

      Simple. Your friend is not gay, he is bi-sexual. He can indulge his interest in girls in Thailand without being judged. It is not only the hetero community that is judgemental.

  19. Myazaki December 10, 2013 at 9:12 am #

    “Two bold young neuroscientists have initiated a revolution in the scientific study of sexual attraction. Before Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam, the only researcher to systematically investigate sexual desires was Alfred Kinsey, who surveyed 18,000 middle-class Caucasians in the 1950s. But Ogas and Gaddam have studied the secret sexual behavior of more than a hundred million men and women around the world. Their method? They observed what people do within the anonymity of the Internet. Now guess what?
    Shemale porn is extremely popular amongst heterosexual men”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4

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