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Why Thai Girls Are Better Than Western Women

I always seem to get a bad rep from from Thai girls I've offended so I thought I'd write a post about why I think Thai girls are better than western women. Though now I'll probably get a bunch of responses from western women who take just as much offence. In fact I don't think it's possible to write about any topic as a matter of my own opinion and not get flamed. I'm just saying that I think Thai girls make way better girlfriends than western women and here's why.

Thai girls are more agreeable

As you get older there are more and more things that you find irritable you might have tried and don't like. Thai women are more subservient and are more likely to go along with whatever you want to do. Trying to get a western woman to do something you want to do is like trying to push a bulldozer uphill. They always want to have the last thing to say however with Thai girls they are more subservient and willing to go along with what you want in order for the guy to be happy.

Thai girls make better housewives

Ask any guy who has made their life with a Thai girl and they'll tell you that Thai girls really take care of you so much more than a western girl. From doing the laundry to preparing meals a Thai girl knows how to run a household and make sure everything is up to scratch while you sit down and watch the game. Most Thai girls (except for Northern Thai girls) can cook really well, these days you'd be hard to find a 25y/o western woman who can cook well.

Thai girls are better looking on average

Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those Farang who despise western women. I think western women are super hot but the percentage of hot chicks to ugly chicks is super high whereas for Thai girls there are more super hot chicks here on average compared to western countries. Now this may just be because I prefer asian girls and if so I can live with that.

Thai girls are thinner

While most Thai girls are skinny they arn't toned like a western girl who does yoga 4 times a week however a Thai girl is very petite and let's face it most guys would prefer a chick who is thin. It's a fact that the western world has the highest percentage of really fat girls especially the USA and Australia. Which would you choose?

Thai girls know their place

Most Thai girls would say that for a relationship to succeed there must be one inteligent and one less intelligent person in the relationship. (I didn't make this up it's been told to me a hundred times). And most Thai girls would want the smarter person in the relationship to be the male. Whether it's true or not that's what their hope is to have someone who is smarter than them so they can follow him around. A western woman always thinks she's smarter than you and does everything possible to let you know that she is. She has something to prove and needs to beat you at everything causing immense problems within the relationship.

Thai girls have a better attitude

Sometimes Thai girls melt down and chuck bananas but for the most part they have a great attitude and always seem happy which then gives you a good vibe. Western women on the other hand seem to be permanently on the rag, they find any reason they can to torture you with their incoherent nonsense. Don't believe me? Hows this, a Thai girl doesn't sweat the small stuff bet you'll never hear a Thai girl rag on you because you left the toilet seat up. If a Thai girl told me that I'd quickly put her in her place and make sure she leaves it up when she's done so I don't have to touch it dammit! Which then goes back to my first point a Thai girl is more agreeable and of course happy to do so.

Now i'm sure there are plenty of people who agree with me that Thai girls are better than western women and if so and have your own thoughts please leave me a comment below. If your a western woman who was offended by this then let me know why you think western women are better?


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Chris founded LivingThai.org in 2011 and has received over 3 million visitors. He has lived here for over 10 years and speaks reads and writes very good Thai.

120 Responses to Why Thai Girls Are Better Than Western Women

  1. Paul January 27, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

    Well all I gotta say on this matter is ………. Once you’ve had Asian you can’t do Caucasian.

    You forgot to add a ” Personal Hygiene ” reason Chris. You never meet a Western girl who will spend an hour a day in the shower lathering herself with every possible scented body lotion available in 7/11,

    ” Good houswives ” ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, enjoy the incoming flames 😀

    • Chris January 27, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

      Is that why they are always silky smooth 😉

      • Eric January 28, 2012 at 5:45 am #

        yes, I can’t stop running my hands all over my silky GF…

        not like the ex western wife with acne, hair stubble and ingrown hairs and smelly twat..

        • Gazza July 18, 2013 at 8:34 am #

          That is too funny!

    • Mark Duncan January 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

      Spot on the money Paul, and the fact that more and more western men are waking up and just saying NO to being treated like a door mat by the western female, is pissing them off no end….

      • Rob January 28, 2012 at 2:52 am #

        Mark…

        Right on the money. Have you noticed just how much the average western woman really does not like the average Thai woman?

        I think saying No to a western woman is almost a capital offense! 🙂

    • si January 28, 2012 at 4:33 am #

      Maybe she’s scrubbing intently to remove that foul farang stench off her body.

      • Seth the Chef September 5, 2012 at 8:01 am #

        Racist much?

      • LaTxGuy July 17, 2013 at 3:16 am #

        Say what you want but on general Thai woman like to bath and prefer showers. If one just looks at their hair and skin it is easy to see. Not much for the over dose unless you get fooled into a ladyboy! This is general and not all as western woman try to interpit it is being said. There are exceptions in everything. Thai woman are also much more intune to pleaseing the man and western woman expect that to be the man’s duty to them.
        Thai woman are a lot more sensitive and this makes them very appealing to western men than the western woman which seem to be entangled in trying to prove they are the dominate gender. Thai woman are not weak! actually can be very hot headed and extremely jealous where their man is considered. Very much so!!. They know how to be a woman and are smart enough to know that to use their gender as a woman is to have the best of their world.

    • Linn December 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

      It is totally agre with you that thai girls are better.
      it is depended on education style and mind set of culture..
      they love very much country heads who address to plubic stay peace of mind.
      I prefer to stay with Thai familyat lest.

    • peter May 10, 2013 at 10:48 pm #

      Re Personal Hygiene I whole heartily agree cleanest women i have ever met and of course the bum gun in the toilet helps not just a quick wipe with paper but a good wash every time

    • sonia July 21, 2013 at 10:01 pm #

      Thai woman arw unattractive with bad features

      Good looking younger men woukd choose an attractive English girl over a boring thai bird who says yes to everything all the time.

      Thai ladies in general have nice hair nice skin but features are a no no.

      You can keep convincing yourself you got a sweet deal but truth is no decent western ladies want you..

      You can keep co

      • Peter July 25, 2013 at 7:34 am #

        I lived in England for over 3 years in my early 20’s. All good looking girls I saw in this country were from abroad. No need to say more..

      • ed August 5, 2013 at 10:34 pm #

        That’s the stupidest comment I’ve read. I am a younger guy in Hollywood, where there are some of the hottest American girls I have ever seen. I’ve dated models, actresses and straight up dimes here. I’ve also been with far more English girls than Thai.

        However- Those models that I was with were few and far between. It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack to find a hot chick even in a place like here in the West. The majority of girls are average or overweight. It’s sad.

        In Thailand it’s almost ungodly the amount of gorgeous women everywhere. Not just the bars… hit they Skytrain and you’ll be hard pressed not to see a hottie in your cabin. The only difference between an English hottie and a Thai hottie is an English hottie will pull your teeth because she knows she’s a rare commodity. Because hot Thai girls are all over the pace, they aren’t nearly as stuck up or have the attitude.

        Sorry but Thai girls generally are hotter and they are definitely more of them.

  2. jack January 27, 2012 at 9:26 pm #

    and they have great sense of humor and are fun to be with, when not in green eye monster mode, the extra hygiene care is another bonus, most euro women act like men these days, swear like troopers and are unfeminine,find it to difficult to look after the kids, asian women are real women, how they should be.
    I wonder why homosexuality in western countries is dramatically increasing…….becuase the women are men.
    Take a holiday to Asia anglo pigs and learn a lesson in femininty

    • Safi May 14, 2012 at 3:43 am #

      Are f….. Serious? Just look around you there are more lady boys, gays and lesbians here in thailand then any where else in the world..

  3. ChiangMaiGuy January 27, 2012 at 10:58 pm #

    ‘better housewives’, ‘know their place’ jeeze I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not

    For me it’s quite simple – Asian girls are more accommodating and far less full of that PC crap we get back ‘home’ and their expectations are much less. Whether this is a ‘good’ thing or not is highly debatable but it get’s me laid more 😛

  4. Rob January 28, 2012 at 2:50 am #

    Going back to years ago I found an interesting thing about Thai women vs Western and I do wonder if it is just me, or if there is something to this…

    In Thailand if my girlfriend is in a bad mood it is not very often due to me or anything I have done or said.

    Back in the west my girlfriends were always mad at me for something – pretty well all the time.

    Very strange 🙂

    • Eric January 29, 2012 at 11:04 am #

      My ex west wife used to, after the years went by, develop this beleif that I could “do anything properly” and I have seen other wifes treat their man like this. Like when we had to drive 29 hours on a trip I went to change the brake pads on her car.. she said she wanted them done “properly”, then later find the “certified mechanic” messed it all up putting us in danger…
      see what I mean (and I used to fix fighter jets)

  5. Kevo January 28, 2012 at 4:26 am #

    Spot on..Was asked by a Thai girl why i dont have a girlfriend and that was my reasons.And will be seeing her in a week 🙂

  6. HappyinBKK January 29, 2012 at 12:18 am #

    Yes! – Visually! – a much higher percentage are highly attractive!

  7. Neale January 29, 2012 at 1:55 am #

    Wow talk about provocative posts LOL nothing like writing whats on your mind 🙂

    After 18 months of living in Thailand I find that it is much easier to find a great Thai girl in Thailand than in the west, are Thai girls better than Western girls, for me it is a simple case of numbers because it is so much easier to find a girl here one could say yes. In fact there is little difference there are bad and good on both continents it’s just easier to find good ones here in Thailand “if your criteria is similar to what you covered in your post”

    In the 18 months I have been here I have only met one that I would consider worth dating and I am and have been dating her a while now. Sure I have met a ton in the 18 months I have been here and never had a problem getting laid to put it bluntly. As a good friend said to me once in Thailand you just have to ask to get laid

    If on the other hand you are looking for a girl with brains, her own money, cute, good in bed and not interested in your money or how much you earn. It’s still easier in Thailand than the West it just takes more time.

    • Brian Sumpter January 31, 2012 at 2:51 am #

      “a girl with brains, her own money, cute, good in bed and not interested in your money or how much you earn”???

      I didn’t know such women existed! lolol!

      • Eric January 31, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

        yes, applies to the west girls too

      • Neale @ Living in Thailand February 1, 2012 at 12:12 am #

        LOL they exist, even in Thailand

      • Seth the Chef September 5, 2012 at 8:09 am #

        Yes they exist. They’re just harder to find. It depends on whether you want a good relationship or a good root. Most reading this will want the latter, then if they grow up, value the former WITH the latter 🙂

  8. Crusader79 January 29, 2012 at 4:00 am #

    I moved to Asia right out of university 30 years ago and for most of that time had little interest in western women, at least partly because there were so few of them. But in recent years that’s changed as westerners of all sexes and ages flock to Asia looking for opportunities. And like you I am still attracted to western women and let’s face it, they’re a lot more interesting to talk to than most Thai girls. But man, when I start chatting with a western woman online, they very very often are defensive, aggressive and even hostile from the start, and I no longer have any tolerance for that. So I guess it’s the old story, stay in Asia long enough and you can never go back.

  9. Working Tourist January 29, 2012 at 4:40 am #

    Been to Thailand for a month now, got a girlfriend who indeed followed the pattern above, but I just could not fall in love with a girl who constantly says “up to you” when I ask for her preference about what to do, eat, etc. — she even talked about how she would change her life (job and residence) so she could fit into how I wanted her in my life (i.e. I don’t want her around all the time, but I do like having her in my bed).

    I dumped her due to not loving her (and I felt bad for leading her on).

    Now I have a female thai friend and I see exactly the same pattern; she cooks for me, buys things for me, drives me around on her motorcycle, clearly wants to be my girlfriend and when I treat her bad (like this morning when I did not show up at her place) she takes it with a smile “hi hi, you sound tired, I understand” and I said I wouldn’t come by for lunch: “you busy working? good”.

    It might make thai girls “better” (for your definition of the word), but it makes their boyfriends worse by not challenging them and allowing them to be disrespectful to women.

    I also feel that when everything is “up to you”, the girl is really putting on a mask and never letting me know her true feelings; she just want to please me because she know being with a falang makes her life so much better (no 6 days workweek living in a crappy house/apartment and barely getting by).

    • Eric January 29, 2012 at 11:12 am #

      Lol… my educated long term GF is from the South.. sure, she wants to please me but although very polite has firm opinions..
      interesting and great to be with.. I am no expert, but from what I see, Professional girls say working in BKK would probably be more interesting for you than say a rubber tree worker from a jungle village somewhere… then thers the language barrier for most.

      Hey Chris, theres a good topic for you!! I know what this guy is saying, how often you drive past a restaurant and see the 4 old dudes chatting there stuff, and bored thai GF’s lookin out to sea (wishin they could go to sleep by the looks of em)

    • Mark Duncan January 29, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

      I must be lucky, as my lady is well educated (a lecturer in HR & Business @ B.K.U) she has her own money, she can can speak English better than some native speakers….. and although she is much better in nature than the “feminazi” western woman, my other half has her own views & opinions etc and doesn’t just agree with everything I say or want, which is good, we have a mutually agreeable and equal relationship, so not all Thai women are airheads……….

      • ChiangMaiGuy January 30, 2012 at 2:14 am #

        she was educated where?

        • Mark Duncan January 30, 2012 at 10:14 am #

          B.K.U. was the clue…… http://www.bu.ac.th/th/index_en.php where she studied for her MBA, BBA & PHD to subsequently become a lecturer & department head of the faculty for business admin & Human Resources. Not all Thai females are washer woman or bar girls !!! I suppose it depends on the class of social circle we guys fit into as to the intellectual level of ladies we are able to meet.

      • Chris January 30, 2012 at 10:21 am #

        I don’t mean to say anything bad about your choice in ladies however for me the whole reason I prefer Thai girls is because the relationships arn’t mutually agreeable. If I wanted a chick who wanted things her way I’d go back to Australia.

        • Mark Duncan January 30, 2012 at 11:17 am #

          If that’s the relationship that works for you, then good for you, enjoy yourself. For me I don’t (didn’t) want to be eternally expected to be apologizing for breathing, as is expected by western woman these days, I no longer wanted the type of female who always had to have 100% of my attention centered on her or to have to tell her she is #1 every 30minutes. But In my case neither did I want a female who (stereo-typically) walks x mount of paces behind me or just said yes to everything i said, Thai ladies are very sexy, smooth brown skin, figures to die for, up for anything 😉 . And for me to have a very sexy lady who I can talk to as well, well I’m hooked what can I say, as the original reply said

          “Once you’ve had Asian you can’t do Caucasian. “

        • Chris January 30, 2012 at 11:23 am #

          That’s the great thing about Thailand there are so many different Types we can all find what we are looking for.

        • Mike January 31, 2012 at 4:49 am #

          Interesting post Chris, have to admit that a lot of Aussie chicks are fat, ugly,selfish,selfcentered,unfeminine and ungrtefull for anything u do for them so can see how easy it would be to have a LOS girl. Got a year or so to go before I can come up your way to live and its getting harder every day waiting. Hope things don’t change too much by then.
          cheers, Mike.

        • Eric January 31, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

          Go man go.. u can do it..

        • peter May 19, 2013 at 6:26 pm #

          mate the problem is there you cant get the young girl is 18 since she give a fuck on you, and real girls as you tell us here as well, girls tell you what they want and not want – girls you cant handle

    • Brian Sumpter January 31, 2012 at 3:09 am #

      If you belived in your karma, Working Tourist, you wouldn’t let your Thai GFs kindness allow you to become disrespectful. You would feel blessed that they are kind and good, and offer you an example of refined behavior.

      And if “Up do you” bothers you, why not reply “I would like to know what you would prefer”?

      While less advantaged Thai girls act more desperate (they are) it is all the more reason to be kind to them. Tread softly on the tender heart, you will never be sorry.

      Lucky for me, my first drop-dead-gorgous Thai gf spent all my money, and turned violent. I am very appreciative now of the kindnesses of the less advantaged Thai woman. My wife is of sound moral fiber, and 20 years younger than I could get in the West.

      • Working Tourist February 1, 2012 at 9:53 am #

        Just to be clear, I am not disrespectful toward them and do my best to communicate that their opinion and feelings are as important as mine (while also showing my appreciation for their unselfish acts) — I mentioned the word “disrespectful” because that is what I got from Chris’ post.

        And for the records, first GF finished bachelor from B.K.U. last year, current one has an electronic engineering degree (I think from Chiang Mai University).

        I do hope I meet more independent thai girls, I have no doubt they exist, but probably a lot harder for me to get near 😉

        • Chris February 1, 2012 at 11:42 am #

          I’m pretty sure a degree in Thailand is the equivalent of finishing High School back in the States. Just because someone has a degree here I wouldn’t say they are exactly capable nor intelligent.

        • gomzy May 11, 2012 at 9:40 am #

          excuse me?..degree here is equivalent to finishing high school in australia?
          lol!
          i had my whole schooling in asia.finished my medical school.wrote USMLE and AMC (australian medical council exams).did exceptionally well.for me to get into the same residency being a foreign medical graduate i had to score higher than american medical grads and aussie medical grads.
          its not the lower quality of education but less amount of job opportunities.

        • Chris May 11, 2012 at 9:45 am #

          Exactly, you had to score higher because the teaching here is of less a quality. I’m basing my argument on the 1000’s of university students I’ve met in Thailand as well as the point you made.

        • gomzy May 11, 2012 at 10:06 am #

          teaching quality is excellent depending on which medical school you attend.just like,you can’t compare university of tuscon to harvard medical school.if the teaching quality is low why did i score higher than my fellow doctors in U.S and AUS? question paper was set over there by their respective medical councils.its the concept.its not like embeden meyer hoff pathway is suddenly gonna be different in australia or america.
          we are more hard working and devote much more of our time to patients thats why people are more likely to prefer to get treated by asian doctors.”talent is overrated hard work wins anyday!”

        • Chris May 11, 2012 at 10:25 am #

          in the end Thai girls are still better than western women 🙂

        • gomzy May 11, 2012 at 10:49 am #

          lol! i agree that there are some western FEMINAZIS.and i am not a fan of them even being a woman so,i can understand the distaste of men for such women.but i happen to meet really nice and down to earth american girls.

        • Seth the Chef September 5, 2012 at 8:34 am #

          That’s been my experience too Chris. My ex-gf had 2 Masters degrees, 1 from Australia. She was lovely but wasn’t overly smart. Not in any way dumb either, don’t get me wrong, possibly a little more like women used to be around 50 years ago in the west, in terms of adherence to superstition etc. As far as understanding as a person – exemplary – but in terms of intellectual ability (in both Thai and English) not as good as the West. Sounds terrible to say, but it’s true. Possibly because she was from a rich enough family not to need the education for anything but status.

      • Seth the Chef September 5, 2012 at 8:26 am #

        Karma…is this now a forum of weird religion, mung-bean eating, weed chuffing or general hippydom?

        • Seth the Chef September 5, 2012 at 8:28 am #

          But kindness is the best anyone can expect out of anyone, and your attitude is the right one, i believe. Sorry, got outta hand there… ;p

  10. ChiangMaiGuy January 29, 2012 at 8:49 am #

    It has advantages and disadvantages – personally (unless you are old) I can’t see the point with so many girls around having a steady gf I get bored very easily. Believe me you don’t want a possessive Thai around – and they CAN be possessive.

    Forget about feelings, treat her with respect and honesty and bang her but with no promises of ‘future’ – Thais are MUCH more accommodating and ‘open’ to this IF you don’t try and trick them (and get caught).

    • Sommao January 31, 2012 at 10:46 am #

      Words of wisdom right here.

  11. Isan Oz January 31, 2012 at 1:43 am #

    Simply put…there is no greater love than the love of a Thai woman. It’s a rare & special kind of love & anyone who is lucky enough to find the “one” is very lucky indeed.

    • Eric January 31, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

      brings a tear.. but well said..

  12. Banjo January 31, 2012 at 2:53 am #

    Thai girls are more agreeable: Not mine

    Thai girls make better housewives: Mine hates housework, we have a maid.

    Thai girls are better looking on average: Personal choice but yes, I think so. I spend a lot more time looking in the malls here than home.

    Thai girls are thinner: Yes, at the moment but it’s changing rapidly… curse you MacDonalds!!!!

    Thai girls know their place: Bullshit… maybe you hunt out the submissive type.

    Thai girls have a better attitude: No, can’t agree, a lot are more naive and often struggle with farang relationships.
    I read an article a while back claiming that many prefer relationships with Thai men because even though they have to put up with domestic violence and infidelity in many cases its “what they know, what they grew up with”.
    Of course they tell YOU different. 🙂

    • Sommao January 31, 2012 at 4:19 pm #

      Sounds like she got everything she wanted from you and knows she’s got you by the balls…. the true self comes out. Thai girls are better so long as you always have a carrot to dangle in front of them… wow we are all going to hell aren’t we?

    • Eric January 31, 2012 at 5:01 pm #

      well put

    • Paul February 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

      ” Thai girls know their place ” ………

      I missed that one, the ones I have had the pleasure of dating only know their place on the sofa which has an unobstructed view of the television and within an arms reach of somewhere to charge their phone and hide the remote.

  13. Mr Hoy January 31, 2012 at 9:12 am #

    Mate couldn’t agree more or said it better myself 100% on the money.
    Love your work.

  14. Sommao January 31, 2012 at 4:05 pm #

    Whenever people ask me what I like about Asian women or dislike about western women (GENERALLY speaking), I always say an Asian woman acts like a woman and expects to be treated like a woman. She treats her man like a man and expects him to act like one. Very straightforward right from the outset, no games involved.

    SOME Western women on the other hand seem to want to be a man and a woman at the same time. They want so called “equal rights” yet want to be treated like a lady. A Western woman will happily walk all over you and brag to her friends about it if you let her. It is possible to overcome all this by having a strong frame and essentially showing a western girl she actually isn’t “all that and a bag of chips” through treating her like crap and other dirty games but this doesn’t exactly set the stage for a good relationship….

    In short I tend to think that (money issue aside) what a Thai girl says she wants and what she really wants is closer to the truth than what a western girl says she wants and really wants (what makes her feel good is not the same thing that makes her attracted to you).

  15. ChiangMaiGuy January 31, 2012 at 4:16 pm #

    no games involved? – get it straight – no money – NO honey

    • Eric January 31, 2012 at 5:22 pm #

      yeah I hear u man…

      try sayin u have little money, see how far u get.. if u can form a relaitionship then all the better…

  16. Eric January 31, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

    Guys, guys.. this stuff is not black/white… we are talkin about the 2nd most confusing thing to man (the 1st is why we are here!)
    love reading the inputs… we all have our stories..
    but in the west and the east.. we need to follow the self presesevation rules!! keep ur $ in the banks, dont brag… they love u for u right, lol… hmm,

    • Mike February 1, 2012 at 3:33 am #

      Ask any western chic what they would like to see in a partner?
      Most will say. Nice shoes, good dresser, “secure job”,sense of humour,haha. They say money is not that important but put them in a room full of men and ask them to pick out suitable candidates for a partner and every time they will pick the ones that look as though they have financial standing. I fail to see the difference between this attitude and a Thai girl trying to score a man to look after her but the west girl will slag on Asian women for just being prostitutes. Call all the farangs dirty old men. Go the Thai girls make your man feel good and reap the rewards. In years to come west chicks will have to buy sperm to multiply as no guys will be interested in them and their coarse ugly ways.

  17. Travis February 1, 2012 at 5:00 am #

    These topics comparing Thai women to western women always seem to illicit the same responses from guys.

    That is, Thai women are more favorable because they appear to exhibit more “feminine” traits compared to western females, as in, they are more loving, slim, etc. etc. Not to mention that Thai women are supposedly less influenced by feminism and equal rights. I won’t get into the fact that some of this smacks of being an almost outdated notion of Thai/asian women as being “submissive.” And is it really necessary for some to crudely denigrate western women (not really here but quite present on other message boards)?

    I have to ask, are some of these guys basing their views and opinions on Thai women from their experiences with BAR girls? I realize it is hard to sometimes separate reality from fantasy when you have sensual moments with a bar girl, but to base your views about Thai women and femininity on the working girls you paid for in Pattaya and Bangkok are ludicrous.

    From the non working girls I have dated, along with the working girls I have paid for, Thai women are like women anywhere else around the world. You have gold diggers, liars, and cheats, as well as some of the sweetest and most genuine women around. I will not deny that the Thai working girls have given me more of a feminine girlfriend experience than non working girls. But that is hardly a good “baseline” to generalize the characteristics of the typical Thai woman.

    Bottom line, do not let fantasy color your opinions of the women of any country, period.

    • Angus February 2, 2012 at 6:50 am #

      Spot on mate.

    • Izzy January 11, 2013 at 5:34 pm #

      Couldn’t agree more 🙂

  18. Paul February 2, 2012 at 6:53 am #

    So here is a very funny joke I heard a while back and unless you have lived here for a while you would not really get it.
    If this was that other sucky website then I would get castrated and banned for life for posting something off topic but then I guess quite a few of us here are refugees.

    A 71 year old fat guy called Bob walks into a bar in Chiang Mai with his new 19 year old college girlfriend just behind him. She of course is wearing the stereo typical Thai university uniform and is busy chatting on the new phone he just bought her.
    His friends are dumbstruck as she is so cute and young enough to be Bobs great great grand daughter.
    One of them leans over and says to Bob, how in hell did you manage to pull her.
    Bob leans back and says ” I lied about my age, I told her I was 90 “

    • Ben Johnson February 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

      Good joke lol! But true for so many ha ha ha!

    • Jai Dee September 2, 2012 at 7:37 am #

      555

  19. elstev September 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm #

    I have yet to move there and am excited about the move. I would have to agree with Travis that women come in all shapes and sizes and can’t be labeled. It’s the cultural differences that make Asian women (especially Thai) more appealing to me. Not to mention Asian women age better and don’t appear to be hampered by religious beliefs or daytime feminist television. lol

  20. kevin October 22, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

    Sorry but asian women do not age better than western woman. I’d say 95% of all asian women really start to go downhill fast once they hit 30. (unless you have different observations than I do). As teenagers and in their 20’s they are hot and most have firm bodies (without having to exercise either), but once they hit 30, they seem to age really quick.

  21. Cusanus November 6, 2012 at 5:52 am #

    Don’t want to say too much. I happen to be a born again Christian, the real deal having met a real Jesus and received the holy spirit. Not to be rude, you can’t be too black and white, but bottom line, Asia women are better (than American), a LOT better. If I were 40 years younger and had $20 million in the bank, I could not possibly find a more attractive, sweet, energetic, accommodating, honest, personable, popular, loveable, positive, cheerful and downright adorable woman than my Thai wife, not even if she were 40 years younger as well. They simply don’t exist.

  22. Chirs December 28, 2012 at 6:22 am #

    This post is hilarious.

    Saying the ratio to “hot” Thai women is alot to ugly ones… ahahaha

    This rumour that There are so many attractive women in Thailand is a complete bust and any young average to good looking white or other male gets completley disapointed at the reality upon arrival.

    Like myself all my friends, and many others spoken to.

    Not saying you couldn’t find an attractive Thai women, in all countries there are attractive women, but the ratio your’e talking about like the rumours is another pint you mentioned that yes they are nearly all slim.

    And young and avalable, doesn’t mean good looking. They nearly all are hideously ugly in the face, with manly faces and look like monkeys. I didn’t see a single pretty or relitivley pretty Thai woman like you would see in any other country.

    In a ratio of ugly women and attractive ones, but yes there is alot of slim sexily (slutty) dressed available ones with long hair and their ugly faces packed with makeup.

    Which the only white men going and paying or dating Thai girls are old fat bald or ugly themselves, so yes this illusion and ratio and fact they are actually willing to get with them means to them they are “beautiful” and stunning.

    But please don’t confuse the statement as true as who it’s coming from.

    Every good looking man young man you will never ever see with a Thai women because they have maybe one of the most ugly looking women not ratio all (the ones the ugly old men call attractive) in the world.

    It’s not like Eastern europe where the ratio of the women are actually attractive, because they’re not as uncouth or money grabbing as the Thai to settle for such a class of white men.

    And then a slim young looking girl in their own western countires wouldn’t touch them unless they were very wealthy in which case they wouldn’t think Thai women were anything but ugly like they are because they could get actual attractive women,

    Yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the seeing a pattern of the beholder and the wider picture makes alot more sense.

    a young white attractive or succesful male would never date a Thai women or say Thais are attractive because they can get real beauties from Russia, America, Brazil, Japan.

    To need to mention this ratio BS because it means their odds are better and they can actually get with a younger slim women.

    Yes the English women as whole aren’t attractive but you’ll see many more stunners than walking around anywhere in Thailand.

    Though if you are the beholders that these men are who you will only ever see with a Thai women that changes everything.

    The ratio from in western country not many done up girls or over weight women to the young hot ones that would never get with them, to a country that is very poor with girls having to use themselves as sexual objects to attain a living.

    So many slim reviling dresses very made up and available thats what they mean by ratio of attractive.

    But if your a guy like me who can actually get a truley beautiful girl in the face and body Thai women are fucking ugly manly monkeys that you wouldn’t go near with a bardge pole.

    why even pay for sex with an ugly girl?

    This post is hilarious.

    • freejack May 17, 2013 at 4:55 pm #

      Agreed. I tend to find Korean women more attractive on average – that is, there appears to be more attractive women in Korea than Thailand. In any case, I wasn’t that impressed with what people say about all of the “hot” women in Thailand. There are not that many and many are unattractive.

      • Chris May 17, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

        I guess you live in korea? Mind you the korean girls are a lot heavier than Thai girls same with japanese. Some might argue Russian girls are better. But at least we agree that asian chicks rock.

  23. Chirs December 28, 2012 at 6:36 am #

    The pull for men that they make good wives because of cultural differences and are more gender sterotyped as if the whole feminist movement never came around is very true.

    But you can get women like that as girlfriends and wives with a bit more class and much better looks in most parts of Eastern Europe or even the odd one in Japan thats attractive.

    Sure Thai women might be like that and slim which in your eyes makes them beautiful but everyone knows in the face take away their hair and eye makeup they look like men.

    All ugly.

    But thats not just what you look for in a wife or some men blind to so what will call beautiful, just wish they’d admit if all western women were like that or them themselves were more of a catch to get actual pretty girls would not be in Thai’s.

    Because like you’ll never see a man that can have any girl with a Thai becoz they are so ugly, you will never see an ugly Thai with a white man that isn’t like that. or an attractive Thai.

    This just puts the saying that there are many good looking women there into a more truthfull perspective to stop men like me from going there to find complete disapointment.

    Thank my luck there were some attractive Russians there working, obviously because of this delema, catering to a client base you could see (alot of middle easterns) but had more money, the girls cost more. But just visit Russia or Poland and can find real pretty girls with more class than those ugly monkeys. but they will be more than the peanuts you get those Thai “women” for.

    And if your fat old and bald or unsucessful not jus in terms of Thailand a better life they would go near you just like me or my friends would a Thai “stunning” women.

    So just a different playing field I guess.

    Although the women are very ugly and monkey like and money grabbing I really don’t blame them at all…

    Is all you white men fulling it that I do despise.

    Everyone wants the best they can have, but should ever be at the cost of exploiting or buying into exploiting a race or country like Thailand has now become.

    over 20,000 Prostitues in Pattaya- all drop dead ugly.

    But young even under aged slim girls for peanuts for fat old men.

    fulling the whole thing.

    Disgusting.

    And then some fool of an old guy has the nerve to write on web forums feeling sorry for himself or as if he didn’t know when his Thai wife of how many years one days turns on him demanding more for her family back home, or taking over his house, or leaving him when he looses his job or over all going nuts.

    It’s a joke.

    Karma to be exact.

  24. Christina December 31, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Well, how interesting reading all these comments. I wonder why you are all frightened of Western women? Maybe it’s because you haven’t met one who is passionate about life and sex. You obviously have an identity problem and should talk with somebody about that. Look I don’t care who you take to bed but sex is good only when it’s mutual and passionate, anything else is fake and cold. Sounds like you all need to be in control – won’t work with many Western women who probably find you boring in bed. Lying in bed saying “yes sir”, “no sir”. Get a grip on yourselves and find a real woman.

    • คลิฟ January 1, 2013 at 1:18 am #

      … yes dear, …no dear….

    • galey January 1, 2013 at 10:08 am #

      Sorry Christina have to agree to disagree here.
      15 years ago I would have agreed with you western women are number one, however that was only because of my ignorance.
      After being with Asian women from that point on I have absolutely no desire to ever sleep with a westerner again.
      Asians are all you mention and much more.
      On top of that you don’t have some fat lard arsed domineering cellulite ridden sour hagged faced women to wake up to.
      Then to listen to all the cop out excuses ” I’m content with my body ” ” you should love me for whats in inside not the outside” the list goes on and on please give me a break looks do add to the experience lets be honest.
      Any wonder Viagra is so popular men have to swallow them by the packet load to get aroused by ” the average ” western woman.
      No thanks.
      I’ll take no tables and still not get enough of the Asians and leave the westerns and their attitudes to some other poor hen pecked sucker that doesn’t know any different.
      Have a good day.

      • Christina January 1, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

        Well Galey very interesting comments. I could go on for hours just commenting about your comments but let me ask you – have you read 50 Shades of Grey? You guys just need to know what to do to make Western women submissive (only in bed of course) but it takes passion on your part and I’m not sure Western men are capable of true passion. Are you?

        Have a good New Year.

        • Mr Hoy January 6, 2013 at 11:41 am #

          Christina you’ve answered all your questions with your reply which typifies the majority of western women I’m also taking a education guess your one the 71% as well.
          Western women have taken their eyes off the ball and been left behind by their Asian sisters as far as knowing what a man wants or looks for in a relationship.
          With western women it’s all about me what they can get and expect to do nothing for it or just offload the all the problems as the man’s fault.

          Your response is a great example and I quote: “You guys just need to know what to do”,” but it takes passion on your part “,” I’m not sure western men are capable”,” have you read 50 shades of grey” and the deal breaker “ I could go on for hours “ ie nagging some poor bastard to death over something he more then likely didn’t even know he’d done.
          I did start to read 50 shades and must admit picked up a few things from it but at the end of the day it’s a women fairly tale.
          Where it fails miserably it doesn’t address the main reason men don’t put in the effort 71% of western women are overweight yes 71%

          Now if western women have no self control, discipline or self respect for themselves to remain somewhat attractive to their partners what chance does the male have to get any respect.

          How stupid do these overweight women think males are, do they think we believe their pathetic excuses for morphing themselves into some undesirable beast of a thing .

          You don’t honestly believe ( women’s line ) he should love me for me not how I look do you lets get real here.

          If your physically attracted to someone half the battle is done everything flows from there.
          Part of the fun is finding out what each other likes and push those buttons all the romance and passion is part of the process no need to go looking in a fairy tale book for answers.

          Now if your some chunky butted lard ass with wobbly bits your way behind the eight ball before you start. Fat women must subconsciously know this as well why else would they spend hundreds of dollours on their hair and makeup thinking it’s a quick easy fix ? look in the mirror you cannot hide from the oversized thing looking back at you.

          It leaves fat western women with three categories of men to settle for.
          1. Someone who hasn’t had sex for ages and tells the lard ass how good she looks just to get into her pants so he can dump a load.
          2. Someone who has had way to much alcohol making the lard look like Halle Berry till he wakes in the morning and high tales it out of there.
          3. I almost feel sorry for this guy he marries the love of his life who looks good then the entrapment begins she’ll have a child let herself go to the pack ( using having the child as an excuse for her laziness ) the male is then stuck there fearing he will lose everything.
          Some will finally get to the point when they say enough is enough and leave no amount of money is worth being stuck with a lard ass nagging cow.

          This is in addition to all the points mentioned above, you don’t have to be Einstein to see why so many western men prefer Asian women, It’s no contest really.

          Christina this is not a personal attack on you but it is what it is fat western women are yesterday’s news.
          Happy New Year.

        • maximus January 23, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

          Jezzes! “You guys just need to..” Well, this kind of attitude by western women is what many western men are fed up about. It´s all about the thinking what men have to do… nothing otherwise..

  25. Cusanus January 5, 2013 at 9:03 am #

    It helps if you stay out of the bars. My Thai wife is 55, skin is as smooth as a mushroom cap, once won a beauty contest she wasn’t even entered in by accidentally walking across the stage, and she is nowhere close to ugly. She has 31 years teaching tenure, everybody loves her, she fixes all my meals and everything else, adores me, bought me a new house and car shortly after we married, I have 100% medical/dental coverage (every dime), and live in a beautiful country. My last job in the states was $5/hr next to the DOJ where I was picked on by sweaty punks trying to coerce the workers into smoking crack, before that five years listening to school district brownies at the admin building brag about forcing preachers to watch porn made for schools, while the daughter of a family friend was raped in the high school. Social security would only get me a slow death from freezing cold in a an alley in the states, but here I’m pampered endlessly. The blunt fact is that the problem isn’t just women, Americas personalties in general stink, the society is drenched in sex, the food is poison, everything costs 10 times too much, you can’t escape the drugs, booze and perverts, MDs are nothing but sluts for the pharmaceutical industry, ad infinitum. Eventually, I suppose, Thailand will succumb as well…

  26. Christina January 8, 2013 at 8:22 pm #

    Dear Mr. Hoy:

    I am not one of the 71% which is why men who go to Thailand baffle me. What is it you want in women that you can’t seem to find in your own country? It is sad that the only women you have known are those who are takers and not givers. I’m sorry to say you sound just like one of them. Are you a taker only? Christian Grey (50 Shades) gives openly and honestly. Ana wants to please him because he allows her to see him as he is.

    Why do you believe that men feel disrespected? Have you been disrespected by a woman? One of the most passionate and loving couples I know saw beyond weight and looks into the soul of their partners.

    I have a news release for you. MOST western men do not want Thai women. They want passion and love as well as an equal partnership. They don’t want to control or abuse. Maybe I’m lucky that I haven’t met any men who want to debase women.

    Mr. Hoy, how much money do you send your girlfriend in Thialand? According to some articles I’ve read Western men send their “girlfriend” that they see only once or twice a year money to “support” their family. Most of these girls are using the money to support themselves and their boyfriends.

    I don’t want to hurt your feelings or belittle you, you seem to do that quite well yourself. How confident are you as a men? How do you view yourself? I’m puzzled help me understand.

    • Mr Hoy January 23, 2013 at 10:37 am #

      Dear Christina
      There you go with your western women thought process again exactly why western women just don’t get it.

      I’m guessing your not that old why, you have mentioned numerous times your not fat or ugly and flirt with guys down the street you treat that fairy tale ( 50 shades ) as some sort of bible you even quoted from it.
      So you’ll have very little life experience to fall back on mainly only what’s in your ideal world.
      I never said men feel disrespected I said “what chance does the male have to get any respect “ because 71% of western women have no self control, discipline or self respect for themselves to remain somewhat attractive to their partners IE: overweight.
      On top of that the health issues that go with it, they just don’t seem to care forget about looking good.
      Being healthy and leading a full life should be enough motivation. And don’t tell me fat people can lead a full life I take to many to hospital in my job with a ton of problems to know better.

      You say you know one couple ( I can’t believe only one must be many more ) who look beyond the weight, so what your rely saying is their both overweight.
      Some men are happy with fat partners and all power to them however with almost three quarters of what they have to pick from being lards odds are stacked against most having a NORMAL sized partner.

      Looks like we agree on one thing MOST western men don’t like Thai or Asian women for that matter they LOVE them they get everything a westerner can give plus loads more.
      I’ve traveled extensively through Asia it’s the same everywhere. The majority that don’t like them are like I was ignorant to how good they are till I was exposed to them ( in many ways it’s great you don’t want the place flooded with western men ). Reading about how things are is completely different to experiencing it first hand.
      There was nothing mentioned about debasing women or not having an equal relationship that would be pointless, must be in yet another article you’ve read.

      Again sorry to disappoint I don’t send any money. There is some truth in articles you’ve read about men sending money, it’s not my business to condemn someone who is helping someone financially. Those guys tend to be someone who would get taken no matter what, in their defence it would never be as much as getting divorced with a westerner would ever be.
      It’s a small percentage and not your main stream Thai society.
      On top of that there is many cultural issues mixed in with that as well which I won’t go into you can look up some more articles many creditable ones about not just the headline grabbers with half truths.

      Don’t worry about hurting my feeling belittling me your entitled to your option as I em mine it makes for some comic relive.
      While on that I hope for your sake ( you mentioned your a welfare/social worker ) your not the typical stereo type we come in contact with them on occasion in my professional life, you only have to look at the way they dress for a start half the time they would pass for one of the patients we give to them.

      Have a nice life as you get some runs on the board re life you’ll realize life isn’t a fairy tale if it was your book wouldn’t be such a best seller.

    • maximus January 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm #

      I don´t want to look beyond weight! I want my woman to take care of her body/health/look – t.ex. not being a fat one! A fat woman is a turn-off (all races). Western women are obsessive to patronize white men who prefer asians and asian women. But when their own friends prefer black men, then it´s ok. Or what? Feminism in the west have done something with our society and culture, and not everything of it is attractive, even if I
      can´t point my finger on it. It has nothing to do with equality etc.

  27. Christina January 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm #

    Dear Cusanus:

    Thank you for your honesty. I believe what you are saying is that men go to a country where they feel more male then they ever felt in the States. I can respect and appreciate your thinking. I wish more men who write on this blog would be more honest about themselves.

    In my job as a social worker I often want to tell men that they would do better in a less competitive environment.

    America is not a place for everyone. You see you must be happy in whatever life hands you and if your not then those who you encounter would be better off without you in their lives.

    I am passionate about a man who has no interest in me precisely because I am a Western woman. I am neither fat nor ugly. I have men flirt with me on the street every day, yet I want only him. You have given me insight into what his life is like.

    I wish you and your wife happiness, joy and love in your new country.

    • maximus January 24, 2013 at 11:17 am #

      you say “I have men flirt with me on the street every day, yet I want only him.”

      Well, maybe it´s because of your personality, as a woman who flirts with men every day, who result in that the man you want don´t want you. I don´t think I know any men who likes that a/their woman flirt a lot, or get easily into a woman who flirt here and there every day. The red lights are blinking: “How is she in a relationship? a flirting woman like this? is she able to behave in a relationship or does she claim “to do as she want?” Western women claim to “do what I want/nobody shall tell me how to be”. It´s the same as saying “I don´t care about how my behavior effects your feelings or life”. This attitude is one of many reasons why many men are fed up of western women. Too selfish. These women mostly care about them self AND demand their men to care only about them, and they complain/nagging anyway. Everybody want to feel that their are unique, special and the only one for their woman and that their woman behave as that. On the asian dating sites often the girls write “the only one” etc. to tell that they only concern about their man. Western women have a attitude like “As long as I don´t fuck other men then I haven´t done anything wrong”. This attitude is far away from what men appreciate and want, if they can choose (who they often can´t).

  28. Cusanus January 9, 2013 at 12:25 pm #

    Very intelligent remarks, Christina, but not sure you got it. I definitely don’t appreciate the less flattering ways here of describing women, but I sure never felt like less of a man in the states, I just didn’t feel that being the most real man or woman meant having a noggin full of genitals, whoa, not disrespecting you, but the fact is that I couldn’t pursue a career or even old age w/o being gunned down by relentless banter and incessant giggling about penis and vagina. I also very much appreciated a wide variety of beautiful women in the states, of which far outnumber men, and sure had no shortage of such as good friends or a choice of drop dead beautiful babes for any purpose I wanted them, though I felt that God wanted me to stick to one family and give it my best, which I would have done, but the corruption and greed in the states and illnesses in the family owing to such simply outstripped my ability to cope any longer. I was 56 when I left, btw, and could barely stick my head out of the house w/o being beseiged by women of just about any age or status, but was also really put off by the tendency they had to be unbuttoning their blouses or finding excuses to do a little rubbing where it feels best, and then at the same time, there were a few who were wrangling to make it look as if I was pursuing them, which wasn’t the case. Now, I happen to have been in Missoula at the time, which is known as the rape capital of the world. I’m no more or less a man after leaving, but I don’t have to compete with K12 administrators sneaking into the school at night and stuffing staff computers with porn so as to make other look bad, and I don’t have to use or sell crack next to the DOJ, which the young punk supervisors do next to the DOJ. See, I risked a bullet in Vietnam so I could get the GI Bill and afford college, and put in 8 years of 7/16 days studying to get a 3.84 (4.00 major) gpa at a tough university. That didn’t make me employable in Montana because I didn’t drink much, cheat or connive to pimp out my wife on the job, so, no I wasn’t popular, but not much of a man either for making a few such compromises, but then in 1981 I met Jesus, who gave me a way out, meaning I could be a good man without having to have my head in my crotch all the time, a pitcher of beer after work, smoking crack on breaks, wolfing down jelly bismarks and making sideways comments about my coworker’s ass. And, yes, despite all that, I knew some great women in Montana, but the truth is that there are about 100 times more women per square mile here in Thailand. I also don’t dig doctors and being in better physical health than most 30 year olds, don’t need them much, but here I got it all paid for and can find an honest one if needed, also free dental, 100%. And, the truth be known, in general, having hundreds of kind and sincere friends instead of a handful and a church crammed with hundreds like myself who actually know a real, literal Jesus, well, that’s hard to beat, as is frequent visits to Meaw’s school where my friend’s daughters don’t have to fear walking the halls. Yes, how well I know, the definition of manhood isn’t the same in the states, but don’t take this as an insult to your womanhood, we’re just talking about realities, or as they used to say, different strokes for different folks. I could always go back to the states and compete, but I guess, you’re right, the old taliwhacker ain’t what it used to be.

  29. Christina January 10, 2013 at 1:10 pm #

    Dear Cusanus:

    Thank you again for your honest reply. I in no way wanted to make it sound like all men who go to Thailand either to live or vacation, go because they are deficient in any way. I am just shocked with the comments regarding women on this website. I honestly can’t believe these men have any respect for these Thai women and understand why these women take advantage of them. Believe me when I say that my heart goes out to these men who need to go so far to find what makes them feel like real men. What do you think Jesus would say to these men or any man who belittles another. If you have a chance read the poem “There are men too gentle to live among wolves”. I believe the authors name is John Cavanaugh. I think you would understand what he is saying. If you find it let me know what you think.

  30. Cusanus January 11, 2013 at 2:47 am #

    Thanks, Christina, I agree, but it’s always difficult to dig to the bottom line. Don’t ask what Jesus would say, because Jesus hears all this and is able to speak for himself if you’re able to hear it. It’s always easy to blame someone else for your own troubles. Your wife has buried herself in food to compensate for chronic neglect as you bury yourself in work to feed the family, and the comaraderie essential to work relations revolves around booze, sexual gimmicks and insults towards those who don’t contribute to that culture and which shows little appreciation for its women, though sometimes it isn’t alcohol or sex, but just plain overlooking other forms of corruption or corporate greed to keep that paycheck coming. So, western women get blamed for self wear and tear when isn’t all of their own making, as if Asian women could fix the problems that western men created in the first place. The real problem where looks is concerned is just the unfortunate fact that western women aren’t on average as cute, but a successful marriage doesn’t hinge too much on being cute, so these Thai / farang unions aren’t likely to last, being that we all lose our cuteness, and the men doing such talking are usually not the crackers they think they are while there’s still a buck in their pocket.

    I’m one of the men who are too gentle, you got me pegged. I’ve also been trashed by the dogs all my life, going from daily beatings and waking up in a pool of blood as a kid, to being driven all over Montana by those wolves who despise a real honest day’s work and pride themselves on the delusion that they’re getting it done, but they really aren’t, and the corporation doesn’t really want the real thing, anyway. The public school job I had in Missoula comes often to mind, as the administrator overseeing computer operations, calling himself the CEO of ISC, would creep into the high school at nights and put porn of staff computers, then make a big fuss about the teachers watching porn. Well, everyone knows these things, but they all play the game and don’t speak up for fear the bad man will get them next. And the young girl who was raped there (I wasn’t there but I think she’s telling the truth) was being raised in one of those Christian homes the admin privately berates while bragging about their private stash of porn, but her family is poor and unable to fight back or talk, so that’s real life, not the system of justice and honor that you read in the newspaper, and real Christians are demonized and despised in both the school system and the workplace, just as they were 2,000 years ago.

    I can tell you this, that God in His mercy 30 years ago, took me to Heaven for a spell, a very remarkable experience. Unfortunately, He hasn’t given me very clear directions since, and I’ve surely made a great many more mistakes. Maybe I should have tried to stick it out with the gov after being fired twice, maybe I should have dug in and stayed in the states and watched my wife and daughter slowly die without the sincere and genuine family and community support needed to pull them out instead of finding blame with the guy who worked to death trying to feed them. Where went my faith in God after I’d been given such vivid assurance years before? Maybe retirement and moving away from the problem is an acceptable answer, for those who like what they find, and the rest can stay behind. That’s how I finally came to view it, and have since been able to put more time into proclaiming the reality of God’s plan of salvation and how to find it, hoping that I won’t be lost myself in the end.

    Maybe I should have stayed in Missoula on the last job as well, $5/hr part time, next to the DOJ, doing “research” which turned out to really be nothing but a platform for distributing crack to young workers who had few other options at the time. Maybe the fault was mine because I didn’t pray as hard as I should have. I know some of my Indian friends haven’t forgiven them for leaving them after the FBI and State of Montana drove their ambulance out of business, embezzled all the money, and left two young girls to bleed to death in the street w/o an ambulance, then made very dire threats to ruin me.

    While I don’t seem to have many answers much of the time, I know that God isn’t dead, and having since failed miserably at making a good life for my X and the kids am concerend about failing Him as well. If others felt otherwise about it, it wouldn’t matter how fat, old or how sick they were, but since I was sitting in the middle of all these problems and taking the rap, it seemed like I should cut their own losses and go where others were happier with what was left of me. Now, all I can say about western women, as well as I can reckon my experience, is that if they didn’t complain so overmuch about their husbands or boyfriends, that their lives would improve remarkably and God’s love would shine brighter on everyone, but few of us have that patience after seeing no end of our problems. Those attitudes are also inspired heavily by the ambient culture, by helping professions who themselves would eventually starve if they really fixed anyting, and especially demeaning attitudes of men, and thus we’re all victims of our own making. These problems are not unique to the west, of course, but Thai society isn’t really quite as selfish or negative, it’s more relaxed, and that’s a great deal of weight off an old man, which is what I am now. I really wish I could say that there was something good in the states to go back to, but there isn’t.

  31. Truth teller January 18, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    interesting that you refer to Thai females as ‘girls’ and Western females as ‘women’. Maybe your just a pedophile!!!! Most of your views are based on uneducated assumptions of what you believe a woman should be to a man. Here we can see that from your perspective a woman existence is to fulfill men’s needs as opposed to her own. That’s a very sad perception you have as a ‘so called man’. Maybe instead of expecting women to make your life easier why not try being an independent man who can look after yourself without the desperate need for a Thai ‘girl’ to do this for you. p.s. Thai women will eventually understand that their existence doesn’t come from being married to a Western ‘boy’ and she will develop opinions and thoughts that suit her needs as opposed to her husbands. Good day to you

  32. oracle January 22, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

    LOL….thai women fark em feel em and forget em….youll fall in love but the smart ones move on..its farkin easy unlike western women…hassle free sex..good stuff..but there diseased creatures too so tarp up…me.. i stay celibate now…bets way to be ..no head farks..no responsibility..nice and easy..relationships are hard work..fast love in the land of smiles is were its at..enjoy.. but keep it real..sawadeeeeee!!!!

  33. Western woman February 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm #

    Interesting comments here. I live in Thailand. All I see is fat, old, male “farangs” with Thai women half their age. They just want someone to take care of them and their families – that so called “rich” farang. You want that sweet, young thing that’s not fat and is submissive, and they really don’t want that fat, old man but they do want your money so they’ll put up with your crap. Who are you kidding?????

    • Chris February 24, 2013 at 7:53 am #

      that’s just life.

      • Mr Hoy February 24, 2013 at 8:10 am #

        All I see is fat, old, male “farangs”

        While what you say is very true to a point, it’s not the only scenario.
        If it’s all you see your not looking to hard.

        • Cusanus February 27, 2013 at 12:39 am #

          Hmmm, yes, I see a lot of those, shameful. But I’m a long ways from old, fat or rich. Well, getting kind of old, but on average in quite good shape. I’m also a born again Christian, meaning that I really do know God. Those who follow Christ have better personalities and a more practical lifestyle. There’s no shortage of fine, beautiful women in the states. Unfortunately, it is true, on average, Thai women are more attentive, cuter, and easier to live with. This has a lot to do with the more materialistic, overly ambitious, hard drinking, calorie consuming, western culture. As a retired person jaded by decades of mean spirited, self righteous, sick, sacrilegious, and dishonest people in the states, God had mercy on me and let me settle in Thailand. Yes, I’m spoiled constantly by beautiful women, not only my wife, but I also have a very warm circle of Christian friends that was difficult to put together in the states. Perhaps the point of this thread should not be to make disparaging generalizations about a race or gender, but simply to say that Western culture is way behind in some ways, and the key to improvement is in finding God. We can’t all by young with perfect bodies, but we can all be better than we are provided we first humble ourselves and follow a good example.

  34. wayne March 12, 2013 at 2:23 pm #

    If there where slimmer girls in the west there would be a lot more not so good looking fellas who would try and date them, as it is a lot act like there a princess and deserve the world and that any bloke who they don’t find attractive can do one, so is it any wonder that western men flock to a place where when you talk to women you get a smile and a hello as apposed to what the fook you after, your proberley just as bad as my last choice of fella, Ask yourself how many girls you no who are quite happy to sit on face book collecting friends whilst downing bottles of wine!!!

  35. Roger March 31, 2013 at 4:27 pm #

    Thai girls rule because you can trade them in like second hand cars (less the guilt) and also worship the

    when there ears get bigger than their heads. Oh and because they aren’t that picky to start with – especially when it comed to desperate old blokes sucking down blus pills. As long as the bulge in the back of you’re pants is bigger then you winners will be grinners.

  36. Micky April 6, 2013 at 11:08 am #

    The fact is most men trolling around in Thailand couldn’t get or keep a western woman cause they are either alcoholics, fat, lazy, ugly & outcasts. Their western wives if they had one got tired of them, hence the nagging. Alcoholism is a terrible thing but the fact is if you can’t go without a drink for 2 months then you are an alcoholic. The Thai women put up with you, not cause they love 98% of you, they are counting the dollars & whispering to the family about what they will inherit once they get through the period they need to. Western women are too much because in the end you just want to hear bs. When you are poor & that Thai lady is long gone, all u will have is your beers left. No money no honey! Haaa

    • Johnny May 14, 2013 at 2:28 pm #

      Best comment here Micky, mate.
      Haha.

      It’s not even about Asian Vs. Western, it’s about who’ll follow your lazy, creepy, alcoholic western arse around so long as you keep crapping out money to some young, skinny Thai girl who has to keep up the pretense of liking you, agreeing with you, cooking food for you, cleaning up your shit and having it off with you whenever you want, trying please you by doing what they think you’ll want or enjoy.

      I’m pretty sure not many Thai woman would bat an eyelid at most of the weird farang men ‘trolling around’ as Micky said, if they didn’t have (or assume those farang have) pockets as deep as they do, I’m sure.

      I mean if money *wasn’t* involved I’m sure a Thai girl would rather just be with a young, good looking Thai guy their own age, who they could actually talk to and hang around with, instead of whiling away the hours of their youth sitting at a table of unattractive, or at best slightly average looking farang men, in silence, playing fucking columns on their Iphone or SLEEPING because they’re so utterly bored to death.

      People will do almost anything for money, including being agreeable, being a maid, having a ‘better personality’, knowing what ‘place’ people expect them to be in etc.
      It’s nothing short of being paid for providing a service in the way people have described it here.

      Maybe those Thai women enjoy it, maybe they don’t, who knows?
      It’s not like they’d give you the brutal truth, is it?
      The kind of relationship (f you can call it that) being talked about here seems like nothing more than a job and some people are good at their jobs if the salary is motivation enough.

      I’m surprised a lot of men actually believe any of the traits listed in this post are a genuine representation of the average Thai woman.

      Then again, this post does start out with “As you get older..” and makes points like “Thai girls really take care of you”, “doing the laundry to preparing meals”, “a Thai girl knows how to run a household and make sure everything is up to scratch while you sit down and watch the game” sounds like those Thai girls have been working in an old peoples home!! Poor buggers.
      Sounds like one boring time, like.

      Had a good laugh at this page, though.
      If I need a Nanny and a rent a wife when I’m getting on, I think I’ll switch over my preferences to a Thai woman to change my granpa nappies and clean my house until the day I die and she inherits my condo. Hahah.

      Enjoyed this thread of comments and all.

    • arthur July 29, 2013 at 5:29 pm #

      what a load of old shite my friend who lives in thailand
      has not got a pot to piss in but his girl takes good care
      and loves him dearly

  37. pete April 16, 2013 at 9:51 pm #

    Not to mention the bum gun used every time they use the toilet always smells sweet

  38. Scott May 24, 2013 at 3:37 am #

    I was amused by most of the comments in this post. I think most of the commentors forgot what the post was about though. ( Why Thai girls are better than Western girls) In the end I think it is a personal preference. I have been living in Thailand for 3 years now as an English teacher. When I am in the major cities, ( the big ones) all I see are fat, old and usually ugly men from all over the world, ( Americans, Brits, Aussie, etc) with young very attractive Thai girls. To each his own. Now to even the score board….. I am almost 45, 6′ 2″ and a little overweight. In my opinion, most of these men come here on vacation and end up staying here in the long run, because they can’t get women in their own countries, but they can here. I can see how the ease of picking up Thai girls would have them coming back for more.
    God created Eve to be Adam’s partner, his equal; not to be his subservient caretaker. Many men prefer Asians because they cater to their every need. The Marine Corps taught me how to take care of myself.
    There are good women on both sides of the globe. You can find a good Western, just as you can find many bad Thais. The fact is that there is more bs in the West. The biggest thing in relationships is that a woman wants a partner who she feels secure with. It does’nt matter what country she is from. SECURITY IS HER GOAL! With Western women holding good jobs, having their own cars, apartments, homes and money, they can be more choosy on who they go out with. Western men are feeling more alone and unable to find suitable companionship, so they come where they know they can get it.
    The Thai girl is looking for the security that foreign men can provide. Whether it is out of genuine love or out of doing what is best for their families, they choose foreigners. For all the foreigners who think that the Thai girls they are sleeping with or dating like doing it is something only the girl can answer. But let me leave you with this thought: does the 40 year old man flipping burgers at McDonalds really like his job, or is he just doing what needs to be done to pay his bills?

    • Western_Beauty June 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm #

      Love this

    • tone994 June 19, 2013 at 3:59 am #

      Hi. You obviously have missed the point. Check this out:

      http://americanexpatchiangmai.com/?p=8936

      I teach here by the way. Thai women are adorable. They have more than we do already to start with – cars, money, houses, land, a career… They want a farang who will not get drunk, run off with a younger whore and have sex with them several times a day. Of course their belief that we meet that ideal is sometimes misguided. I get propositioned every day. One teacher asked my wife if I could give her a baby last week! As for those older gents with a brown tattood Isaan bargirl, they just enjoy the company of a female who is similar to themselves. They were trained to pay for it by their US wife. They don’t know the BIG secret. Sex here is free.

  39. Nurse May 26, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

    Well, Thai girls or western girls are no better than each other.. It just depends on who you meet. But would say if you like a maid and will do everything u want in bed get a Thai girls. Now, if I wanted true woman, has own opinion has brAin, know her rights and know how to provide, get a western woman. Most Thai girls are money hungry.. When all money is gone or seen a younger one that cAn provide for them, they will left u. Most Thai women are home wrecker, obsessive not like western girls they think few times.

  40. Steve June 6, 2013 at 9:44 am #

    Are you looking for a dog or a partner?

    Thai women are better than foreign women because “they dont talk back, work more in the house, are skinnier and know their place”? Grow up!

    Seems to me that you are just engaged in socioeconomic sexploitation

    • Chris June 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

      Yeah and…..

  41. oracle June 13, 2013 at 9:18 pm #

    I posted in feb an article..now i retract it..i had a one tracked mind till i opened it again…these women of south east asia are the best on earth and ive had them all….its true it comes down to personal preference and lifestyle experience…were else can you rent a condominium for 200 a month and never suffer athritis again (lol)…sun drenched shore..skewered rat..no laws motorbikes…its unreal…and most of all i found a religious..hardworking beautiful woman…of beung khan (hell of a trip but worth it)…shes going to be the mother of my child…i keep thinking of that movie el salvador with james woods..thats me man to a tea….anyway good luck to you all and happy hunting …ill keep popping in every six or so months…and keep up the good work Chris….la-kawn sawatdee!!

  42. Weris June 14, 2013 at 8:42 am #

    Hey, im not a western girl & im not white, but i gotta say something.. You dont want a relationship! YOU WANT A MAID

  43. Western_Beauty June 14, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

    Do you know what else is subservient? A servent. This article doesn’t compliment Thai women or western women. Its actually rather offensive to the women it’s trying to support. Being in a couple is a partnership and this is 2013 not 1903. As for half these comments…. There are no words to sum up the stupidity or racism.

    • Chris July 19, 2013 at 3:34 am #

      Such is life

  44. Alan Foos August 7, 2013 at 12:34 am #

    An old subject by now, but let me point out how westerner’s are perceived by Thais w/o respect to gender, but in particular males, not each and every one, but on average they are overweight, overstuffed, overbearing, oversexed, overreaching, arrogant, whining, rude, drink too much, talk too much, more so than western women. There’s not much of that in church, so meeting Jesus is a plus for all, but even for Christians, Thai women tend to be far more cute, in better physical shape, and have much better personalities. I loved my American family and many people back in the states, but for all my life my family members despised me, they were rude, jealous, under educated, strived for ways to take credit where it wasn’t due, and employment was always the same but the comaraderie revolved around alcohol and vulgar jokes and stabbing each other in the back. Here, my Thai wife is incredibly adorable and beautifully shaped, she works hard and gives abundantly to everybody, the rest of the family treats me with respect and generosity as well. I always wondered about that Sodini guy who couldn’t get a date or get laid, even though it’s impossible not to get laid in the states, but women didn’t like him, so he shot a bunch of them, three dead, in a gym. He had about $250,000 in assets, on the verge of retirement age for Thailand with far more than enough money to live on the rest of his life, and could not possibly have failed to find drop dead gorgeous Thai women, either for a good wife or the hit and run every other day that most westerners are looking for when they come to Thailand. The problem isn’t a matter of gender, you can’t cure a black heart unless you meet Jesus, not just go to church, but having a real encounter of the God kind. Find God, then find a good woman and relax. Enough said.

  45. Cusanus August 17, 2013 at 12:40 am #

    Had lost interest, but just want to say this. I’m 65 but in good shape and look no more than 55, 8 years univ math/science, 2 chem minors, BA Botany, MS Soils with 4.00 major gpa. I spent 57 years in Montana and it was Hell, tossed out by the family, then married into a family of tyrants, the old man wanted to see all Jews, Nazis and “n__grs” gassed en masse, never worked a day in his life but managed to steal/extort $700k from unsuspecting dupes of which I was one. I married the daughter because she’d been tossed, the old fart was too cheap to fork out $10 for college registration, forged the title on her car and sold it, would have lived in a snow bank if it wasn’t for me. I worked 16 hour days for 7 years getting us through college, barely enough for bills, under nourished, and was screamed at so much I swore my brain was going to mush and pouring out my ears. Truly, a WWII concentration camp would have been cozier. After grad, I was never able to find a job that wasn’t a culture of alcoholics, sometimes crack heads, anti Christian and relentlessly obsessed with genitals, obnoxious, vulgar, pretentious and cheap. My kids turned out to despise me because I expected half way responsible behavior, all the complaining helped destroy my career and caused me unbearable shame in the church even though I’d met Jesus. CONTRAST: Yes, at the lowest point I had met Jesus and knew that it is my burden to be temperate and long suffering, but when I came to Thailand and experienced a few years of blissful peace and a culture that practiced basic respect towards others, I thought that this is closer to where God would want his child to be. I hoped the rest of the family would settle down and was wiling to devote the rest of my life to caring for my wife, now totally disabled, having blown all her circuits from screaming. I was able to keep her settled for a while, then it started getting bad again, and here I’m getting to be an old man, so, no, I know that God would not require me to suffer more, so it’s divorce time.

    So, I put in an order for a Thai wife close to my age, a good one, a Christian, knowing that there couldn’t possibly be someone that old out there who was a professional, still attractive, and having a great personality, not even in Thailand. But, there she was, in an hour I knew this was the one. There are almost no women of any age with a more shapely figure and silky, smooth skin, drop dead adorable and here she was 51 with 30 years teaching tenure and recently divorced from an alcoholic. No need to wait another day to marry this one. How’s it been? This is a truly beautiful women, a super personality, absolutely devoted to me in every possible way. It isn’t possible to have a better marriage or a more supportive and down to earth family. Since then, we’ve added a daughter in law who is truly one of the most attractive and pesonable young women I’ve ever known, who now has a beautiful little baby girl, now 18 months, and I have to stop now as she has an ear infection and take her to the hospital. Are Thai women better?

    • eriksen August 19, 2013 at 2:00 am #

      Wow, peace be with you…

  46. Bridget August 20, 2013 at 10:57 pm #

    You are all wacked. Totally. Everyone sounds desperate and lonely. Expect for the English woman who put you all in your place. You are using Thai women because of your own inabilities to have successful relationships.

    • Chris August 22, 2013 at 11:45 am #

      You’re obviously a woman and a white one at that.

    • seeit August 22, 2013 at 11:49 am #

      talk shit! successful relationship? ha ha ha, in the west its 2 out of 3 fail……
      why? because they dont like it!!!! wake The fuk up man…..

      justify ur own sad relationship…

  47. me August 25, 2013 at 10:57 am #

    I totally agree with scott.