Thai girls who speak English are typically bad news, they are bad dating material, typically they have gone through more than a dozen farang already they are likely good in bed but there is always alteria motive to them. You can tell how many farang guys the Thai girl has been with typically by the way she speaks English. I don’t like these kinds of girls and stay away from them, in fact I won’t talk to any girl who insists on speaking English with me.
Meeting Thai girls that speak English always ends the same way, with total frustration on my part. Most these girls are pretty jaded by one or more Farang they have met along the way. Thai girls who speak English are more than likely just looking for some guy to help pay their way in one way or another, they’re looking for a free meal or a free night out. Most the time I meet Thai girls who speak English are way too standoffish or annoyingly eager.
Too many Thai girls that speak English always have skeletons in their closet, be it past boyfriends or whatever. Typically a girl with good English will be talking to way more guys than a girl who doesn’t speak English. I personally know hundreds of these types of girls and since we’re just friends they tell me about this guy that guy. Honestly when I hear about it from some of these English speaking girls I get the feeling they’re more of a player than I am!
If a Thai girl speaks English really good has dark brown skin a number of Tattoos and is from Issaan she’s really only good for middle aged fat English dudes she probably worked at a number of beer bars if she has a good body she’s more than likely an ex go go dancer and lives off money guys are transferring to her from overseas so that when they get here they get to have her. Unless she is paying for your time by paying for the drinks and going out this kind of English speaking Thai girl should be well avoided.
There are some really good English speaking Thai University girls out there but I find that they aren’t really serious because really they are just looking for friends so they can practice their English. I don’t like this kind of girl either, they are usually stuck up and think because they speak English that they can get a million guys and they can because not many Uni girls actually speak good English.
Thai girls on the Internet I’d say about 40% of them are just there so they can practice their English. When a Thai girl says to me that they want me to help them to practice their English I tell them straight away that they say one word in English to me that we will end our friendship right there and then. This is Thailand i’m not here to speak English I’m here speaking Thai if I want to have a conversation in English I’ll call up a mate who can speak it properly.
And the ones that have an international school in country education, excellent overseas university education, a good job, make 5 times the money you do and come from a good family?
They rate into your rant, or I am guessing you haven’t really met any?
I don’t care how much education she has she’s unlikely to get a job earning 500,000 baht a month, not unless her parents are giving that to her which I would assume only a fraction of a percent of Thai people are able to do.
I don’t think you got the point. There are many Thai women that speak excellent English, they just don’t fit into the categories you have made. Goto a Chamber of Commerce meeting sometime, in Bangkok, not the smaller ones.
You might be surprised whom you meet.
You jumped on the 500k thing. Your right not many Thai women make 500K, then again there are not many men Western or Thai on 500k a month in Thailand if they have a job for a company.
I know several Thai women off the top of my head with senior positions in large companies being paid 200k+. I also know a considerable number that own their own businesses making considerably more.
So my point is you say “Thai girls that speak English are bad news” Your forgetting that Thailand has one of the highest rates in the world of female executives in senior posts.
Most all of them will speak excellent English
Well Jeff I doubt any of those girls are interested in Dating a farang so your point is mute.
Chris, that’s just not true. I have several friends married to Thais from middle and upper class Thai families.
My own experience is that it’s entirely possible but like all things you need to move in similar circles and you need to “measure up”.
If your a Farang here on a retirement visa living in a 1 bedroom for 10,000 a month in Pattaya or teaching English for 30-50k a month you’ve got about as much chance with a well off educated Thai as you have with a similar people “back home”.
There are plenty of expats living in Thailand making in excess of 500k a month. Or living well off overseas earnings or assets. They meet, interact with, date and sometimes marry middle class Thais …. It’s not that hard.
It’s much more difficult if you see Thailand in a stereotypical way and get by on 100k a month or less while hanging out in beer bars and gogo bars everyday.
Plenty of English speaking Thais who aren’t “bad” remains the theme of my responses.
I’m talking about majorities not minorities dude so while your exceptions are true for the majority of people especially my readers your point while maybe valid in some situations it’s not in most.
There is not a woman or man on this planet that does not have a ‘skeleton’ hidden away in the closet.
Wow, what a lot of gross generalisations in the one thread!
Plenty of Thai girls here in Bangkok that speak English. Some of them have worked in bars, some of them haven’t, some of them speak English based on past “boyfriends”; some because they have bothered to learn the language thinking it will help them out in their life and their career. As to the reference to Uni girls who speak English and only want to meet guys to practice English on, FFS ….
I suggest instead of pontificating on your blog with stereotypes that one expects from a 2 week millionaire or someone whose been here 3 times and reckons they are an expert, maybe you should get out more … and with a different class of Thai.
Cheers
Andrew
If the only Thai girls you meet that speak English are
I don’t live in Bangkok so your Bangkok experience would be more than mine though I meet a lot on chat rooms and talk to them on the phone and have met many in Chiang Mai. Yes I’m generalising but iv’e been here almost 4 years now I get out more than most people and 95% of the time I’m only with Thai people and Thai friends. Everyone keeps saying I should get with a different class of Thai, hmmm people who say that just don’t know me or the people I roll with, I may generalise but it seems a lot of people like to comment here like to assume a lot about me without knowing me.
Your assertion is that Thai girls who speak English are either time wasting Uni students or are hard bitten gold diggers who have skeletons/issues etc…
Plenty of mongers in Pattaya would agree. The type of guys who really don’t know much about Thais or Thailand and have lived here, sometimes for years, but in an expat monger bubble.
Its the sort of base stereotype that mongers boards are full of.
I run a business across Asia including an office in my base in BKK. I employ Thai staff male & female who speak adequate to good English. Some are genuine middle class Thais, most are aspirational working class who are dragging themselves up the “food chain”. None would fall anywhere in your stereotype. None.
But you state that you hang with Thais of all classes and types and yet you don’t know any English speaking Thai women that sit outside your narrow views? Remarkable.
By the way, I had a base in Pattaya for 18 months too. Quite a few girls there sit outside your stereotypes too.
I’m just suggesting your assertions sit outside my experience. That of a business owner who employs Thais, has many Thai friends, dates Thais and also likes a night out several nights a week in all types of places.
So, to the extent that you feel I misrepresented you without knowing you, I’m simply stating your views don’t correlate with my own experiences and seem pretty shallow and pretty much “monger” cliches.
I’m sure though they’ll resonate with the fat blokes from the North of England who reckon say Soi Buakhow is representative of Thailand. 😉
I doubt you know those people you talk about well at all None of them? Please. You mean none at all? You’re trying to tell me and my readers that you don’t know one person that fits into my stereotype that works with you are friends with you or have met on dates and when you go out, if not I doubt you live in Thailand at all.
Re-read the article my assertion is that Thai girls that speak English well are a waste of time. Girls who speak English well studied humanities which is one of the easiest degrees to get in Thailand. Science majors, law etc are much more difficult and those who studied it are much smarter and they don’t speak English well at all people whom I’m sure you cannot communicate with while I can.
Is the article full of Monger cliches sure it is! That’s why i’m saying those girls are a waste of time and that if you speak Thai you are able to meet and converse with women who would either have nothing to do with you because they don’t have anything to do with the English language. The point of the whole article is to explain to guys that if you learn Thai you can avoid meeting time wasters bar girls and gold diggers which is something you won’t find someone saying on a monger board.
I don’t know the people who work with me everyday?? Sure …
No doubt in the world of hookers there are gold diggers. No doubt. Some speak English, some don’t. No doubt speaking English for bar girls assists in getting customers. But so what?
Your assertion was that Thais speaking English are “bad” and by extension those that don’t are somehow better. That’s just bollocks.
A gold digger is a gold digger. A girl with skeletons is a girl with skeletons.
Sure, speaking Thai helps broaden the number you can interact with, especially if it helps you understand Thailand and Thais and you can actually relate to them.
But that doesn’t alter the fact your basic premis is flawed. Thais are as varied and different as any other race. Good & Bad at all levels and in all circles. Whether they speak English or not is indicative of very little on its own.
A pretty simple point I would have thought.
I have looked at a few of your postings.
Some are more believable than others, this one is a complete load of bollocks.
I think your struggling for topics to write about now
Why do you think it’s a load of bollocks?
I don’t like girls who speak anything too much. Best if they speak only every 2nd hour and even then, to a minimum.
I keep a stack of Spicy magazines on the table and they alternate between reading and sleeping. This ties them up for a few hours giving me peace of mind and let’s me be constructive.
Best comment on this thread so far!
What are you constructing?
What you say is basically correct.
Definitely be wary of Thai girls that seem to know all the slang words, swear words and can converse in English with hardly having to think about it, which is mostly associated with bargirls and the lower orders of Thai society.
It`s not rocket science guessing that these types have been around the block several times, have a lot of history behind them, probably clocked up a lot of Farangs, are street wise and as sharp and as cunning as a shite house rat, rather than intelligent.
At the other end of the spectrum, there is the educated middle to upper class Thai ladies who speak English, perhaps even several languages, including Chinese, who deal with many Westerners, either in business or have business interests abroad.
The upper classes consider speaking English as a form of etiquette, as used to be in the olden days of English aristocracy when it was considered good etiquette to speak French, that is really just a form of showing off and snobbery.
But these middle class and upper class women of Thai society will rarely or never become romantically involved with Farangs, whether it be casual, a genuine relationship or on the commercial scene, because there is a stigma towards Thai women who form relationships with Farangs in Thai society, so what this means is that Farangs are inclined to choose Thai women from the lower classes because these are more available to them and considered fair game to some, sometimes at they’re peril. The so-called Thai more educated girls can also be a waste of time and effort in the long term.
To conclude, perhaps none of these women are worth investing in, maybe it`s just a sign of the times the world over and not only in Thailand.
Did you know that if a man and woman are in love the man is much more likely to sacrifice himself for her than she is for him?
You silly mooks should stop worrying about English and learn Thai. This is Thailand, after all. If you dorks go to France, you speak French to the birds, not guttural English.
Ya dumb mooks.
It’s easy to both agree and disagree with Chris’ position.
For one, I think it’s an excellent hint for people who haven’t experienced much with Thai girls, are on Thai dating sites, going to farang clubs … they’re likely to find this out on their own. Guys that are sticking with the ‘where are the girls that I can bang’, theme. It gets old and then you’re stuck thinking that this is true for Thai girls in general.
Cool thing about Chris’ blog is, he takes the time to quantify his experience, and shares it. Disagree, sure, but why the hater comments? What are you doing that’s so much more educational and insightful?
I don’t speak Thai well at all yet, and I’ve seen some of what Chris experiences. Since I day game a bit though, out in malls an markets and whatnot, I’ve met girls that definitely don’t fit that stereotype. For me, it’s been exactly as Chris says on dating sites and farang clubs, and not like that at all in ‘normal’ social settings.
It’s all whatever you want it to be.
They aren’t “hater” comments. They are valid comments.
Regurgitating monger cliches simply narrows all discussion on all Thais and Thai women in particular in a way that serves no purpose other than perpetuating silly stereotypes and makes Bob from Bolton feel informed…
If you hang out in farang bars talking to hookers then yes, many will be messed up if you get past the surface and many will, shock horror, be trying to get as much cash from you as they can. They are hookers, working in bars. And sure the more English they speak the more possible it is they have been around the block a few times. But it’s also just as possible they just got dumped by their farang boyfriend after 2 years together or they’ve migrated to bar work while studying etc etc …
The message being avoid bars if your worried about girls who act like hookers…
IMO there is generally nothing wrong with Thai women who speak English. The problem is the Thai women most western men who speak English. Most western men don’t take the time to learn any more Thai than banalities like hello and beautiful, because of that they are generally limited to meeting women who speak English because they learned from guys they used to date.
I have heard tale of, from friends who have lived in Thailand for a while, of Thai girls who speak good English but do so because the started learning in school as children or have middle class English speaking parents.
My one litmus test for English speaking women, prostitute or not, is how much of her language she will teach me. If she is more interested in practicing English than teaching me her language I kick her to the curb quickly. I’m nowhere near the point where I can hold a conversation but I do know numbers and a few phrases in Thai. I have found that sitting in a bar and throwing out a few phrases and asking to learn more generally separates the decent ones from the hardcore bitches.
Chris, because you are fluent in Thai and in Thailand it does make sense for you to want people to speak Thai to you. The only time the women/men you interact with should speak English to you is if there are non-Thai speakers around or you deviate into English. Great article by the way, except when you knock the Isaan girls who I actually like.
Isaan girls are not really my style as most guys know so don’t take it too personally when it comes to Thai girls i’m more Thai than I am farang 😉
I think you can tell a lot not just based on the level of girl’s English but on how she speaks it. If she is using a lot of slang and idiom that she could have only picked up from foreign guys then this is bad news, she is only good for a shag at best. If her English is textbook and shows a lot of standard mistakes because of how these girls are taught at universities then this is better news.
Many of these girls can understand English better than they speak it, and I can understand Thai better than I can speak it, so in our conversation she will speak Thai and I will speak a mix of Thai and English.
As long as they can say, “up to you”. That is good enough for me. I have plenty of cheap western shows with subtitles (sometimes even dubbed) that they can watch while they rest up.
‘Alteria’ motives? And you teach English, do you?
Obviously I don’t teach English never have and have no desire to.