Login | Register

Stay away from Isaan Girls

Anytime I have a conversation with a girl from Isaan well it normally lasts about 5 minutes before I’m over it already. I know many of you guys have married some Isaan girls and I don’t mean this post with any disrespect at all. Actually one of my best mates married a lovely Isaan girl who is honest educated and has a great family. But let’s be honest here and say that the chances of that happening to the majority of guys out there is very slim.

[ad#Thai Love Links 468by60]

I got a very disturbing email from an acquaintance of mine yesterday basically he’s crying in the email how he lost 3million baht to this Isaan girl who he had loved. He had bought her land a farm and built a new house for his misses, he could only come here a month out of the year but he was doing everything he can to make sure she and her family were happy. He lost his job about 6months ago and couldn’t send any more money for the time being not that they needed much now anyway they had a profitable farm going. He comes over last week and she tells him to basically piss off. Heartbroken he reached out to me but I couldn’t say anything but I told you so.

Now you’d think you find a great girl pull her and her family out of poverty that they would like treat you like a king right? Well a decent person would but in the eyes of many an Isaan girl your just a meal ticket until you stop buying meals. My mate in this case was taking care of her and her family for years and by the time he has a problem they are nowhere to be found, what kind of cruel and evil person does that to a guy.

stay away from isaan girls

This isn’t a unique case either guys, I literally know 100’s of guys who have been duped by Isaan girls their large mouths wide cheekbones and dark skin seem to be favored by foreigners coming to Thailand but I honestly think the reason for this is because they are so forward. See a white babydoll Chiang Mai girl won’t walk up to you in the bar! You actually have to work for it but you won’t even get there because these Isaan girls will already be all over you.

The majority of Isaan girls all want one thing, they want to take care of their Mom Dad and extended family. They probably have younger brothers or sisters that are going to school and they want the best for them. The problem is this is their main motivation for trying to find a foreigner. When you meet a Thai girl ask her why she likes foreigners most of the time they will be straight up about it “I want someone take care me and my family”. When a girl says that to you it’s best just to walk away. Doesn’t matter how much you like her there are a million girls just like her out there who have a different answer, like “because Thai girls are bad news to me I want try Farang”. The difference here is the “Take care me” girl is only motivated my money and as soon as you can’t take care of her and her family she no longer has a reason to be with you. The “Thai man is bad” girl is motivated by love and affection and as long as you take care of her heart she will love you forever.

So like the title says stay away from Isaan girls, the majority are lies, cheaters, and whores. But if you honestly do like the Isaan look and you think you’ve found a great girl I urge you dearly to do the “Am I going to screw you over test”.

[ad#Thai love links 468 60]

The Will My Isaan Girl Screw Me Over Test

Start giving your Isaan girlfriend money to give to her parents. Make it a decent amount say 10,000 baht a month. Do this for 4 months as well as take care of her as well. Say you need to leave the country for 3 weeks and basically go on a holiday. After 1 week say that you have had some problems you’ve lost all your money but you still love her tell her she can stay in the apartment since it’s a 6 months lease but you won’t be back for another 6months. Don’t call her for a week and ask a mate to check  in on her see where she’s going who she is with. If she’s not screwing around then come back abruptly and say that you’ve come back and that you need to get a teaching job or something and she needs to get a job now to help you pay for the certificate. If she complains kick her out, if she is enthusiastic to help you out you’ve got a keeper. Week later say you’ve got some of your money back cut the payments down to 3-5 thousand keep her old folks happy and enjoy the rest of you’re life.

But whatever you do don’t ever and I mean this ever put anything in her or her families names. Don’t buy a car or bike or nothing in her name, no such thing as child support or alimony here guys what is your is yours sell it and put it in the bank. Police can’t search bank records without a court order but like I tell people keep your money in the cloud and send it to your Thai bank account like a monthly payment.

You can avoid all this trouble though with what I said is stay away from Isaan girls have your fun with them when you want but don’t go giving them the farm!


More Thailand Info:



About Chris

Chris founded Living Thai and author of the books Learn the The Thai Alphabet and How to make money in Thailand also the Blueprint for Living in Thailand. Chris started this blog with the aim of educating westerners on how to have the best time in Thailand, to make new friends and to vent his frustrations Chris is also fluent in both written and spoken Thai.

96 Responses to Stay away from Isaan Girls

  1. ChiangMaiGuy June 15, 2012 at 8:51 am #

    Why anyone would want to ‘settle’ I have no idea anyway… but then I’m a cynic I guess. I didn’t come here to ‘find’ a new gf or new family and I think most people are asking for trouble be they Issan girls or not.

    • Terry Uk July 2, 2012 at 9:34 am #

      yes i totaly aggree with after comming to Thai for 8 years or more with my bad experiances and see how my freinds who are married to Thai woman have to skip around and tolerate so much shit from them to try to make it work so why would any one want to marry an Issan girl or other, it make you wonder why there are so many Thai woman avaliable the Thai men don’t want them as they get older , i have come to the conclusion Thai woman are are all crazy , depends on what level of crazy you have from 1 to10 for your happiness , i had one about 8 out of ten nearly destoyed my life walked away thank god

  2. Quick Question June 15, 2012 at 9:11 am #

    Do you know anything about loans? Let’s say you put a down payment on a car, but have to have a Thai guarantor (Isaan or not). I assume they are responsible if you mess up, but do they have some type of ownership and have to sign papers once the loan is up to grant you full rights to your car? I’ve heard mixed reports on this and I’m having a hard time finding an answer on the net.

    • Chris June 15, 2012 at 9:33 am #

      All depends on what the contract of the purchase of the car says, the bank owns the car because it’s loaned right, but assuming you pay the car off or have it told who does the title go to, when you purchase the car it’s either/or. There is a thing on the contract (in thai of course) that says you either need both to sign or either/or. Find the contract scan it and send it to me or get someone else to have a look.

  3. quilty17 June 15, 2012 at 10:24 am #

    Any arrangement where you are paying the girl or her family a monthly fee is just an employment contract, so you should not be surprised if she stops working when you stop paying. Does not matter if she is from Isaan, Chiang Mai, or Texas ;) So long as you think of her as your employee you should be ok.

    • Working Tourist June 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

      Agree 100% — seeing Chris write Start giving […] 10,000 baht a month is not the way to start a relationship based on emotions.

      Start by getting money out of the equation (if your first encounter involved money) and get to know the girl, her background, her motivation, her goals in life, etc. and then judge if there is a chance of a future with her.

      A girl I know works as a go-go dancer and had an italian customer. First time he barfined her they went shopping (he bought her, amongst others, two designer bags worth ฿10K each). After shopping (and eating) she tells him she is tired and wants to go home (so no “boom boom”). He returns the next day and barfines her for another two days (paying ฿5K/day). He did manage to do her on the second day, though only once.

      He returns to Italy and calls her every day, though while she stays with me (a week) she doesn’t pick up, so after that week he of course asks, and she just tells him she had been busy (to her credit, she never really lied to this guy).

      He tell her he wants to marry her and want her parents to see her via Skype. She doesn’t have a computer, so he instead want to take his parents to Thailand to meet this prostitute he paid for 3 days of company… she somehow get him talked out of it (saying she’s too young for marriage).

      A few weeks later she has an ฿20K eye-operation (I think for cosmetic reasons). When she tell the Italian guy he wants to send money, presumably she didn’t get she was joking when she said she had no money for food and saw his chance to jump into action as the white knight.

      A few days later he shows up in Bangkok and want to meet her. They meet for dinner and he shows her an expensive engagement ring.

      She’s actually a good girl (despite her job) so she doesn’t take the ring and tell him she has another guy. He wants to know how much this guy pays — presumably he wants to see if he can get her by paying more.

      Falangs are just asking for trouble in the way they act. The italian is only one of several who wants to shower my friend with money, I’m seriously impressed by how much she turns down, because she works in the bar to make money, she lives frugal, saves up most (with the exception of money sent to her parasit family) and has a well defined savings goal. She could reach the goal much faster if she would tell a few white lies here and there, as the falang are ripe for plucking.

      I know there are girls who are deceitful and take extreme advantage of these poor falang, but there are also many falang who more or less push money onto the girls. With the girls having no idea how much money falang have, they don’t see the big issue with accepting money and does not feel obligated to “return the favor” — after all, all falang are butterflies who will move on to a younger girl when they are bored with the current one…

      • Chris June 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm #

        Let me begin by thanking you for a really good comment here. Now as you know the Isaan region is the poorest region in Thailand not much going on there not even tourists go there, well 90+% of tourists anyway. For most young women in the Isaan region bagging a foreigner is their way up I can’t even blame them for that because hell if I was a young girl from isaan with crappy education (and it is really bad there) I’d want the same thing. At the same time I have younger brothers and sisters who currently go to a crappy school, I have parents who make next to nothing I’d want the best for them too. So really unless the girl is an orphan with no brothers or sisters you really are stuck with dealing with the money factor and that’s before you can think about emotions. Even you admit that your friend sends money home! When dealing with an isaan girl it’s inevitable that you have to take the money into account. Hell if you really do love the girl you have to love her family too I don’t care where she comes from! If your thinking about marriage well her brother is now your brother wouldn’t you want your brother to get a decent education, wouldn’t you want your mother in-law not have to struggle raising her family living off Pappaya salad and sharing half a chicken between 8 people! I wrote this article for guys to stay away from Isaan girls because really you’re going to have to deal with this inevitably my mate married an isaan girl middle class educated yet still sent the money home where her parents didn’t even really need it anymore. If you do like isaan girls my story here can help you weed out the girls who are into you just for the money or the ones who really are there for your heart too.

        • Charles June 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

          Peace, Chris. This was pretty well written. Though, when you’re decent guy and sex and party isn’t the be all and end all. Love isn’t always easy but it will work itself out. Here, there, everywhere.

        • Paul July 31, 2012 at 3:23 pm #

          Chris

          Nice too read something from a farang in Thailand that seems to have an understanding of “What is What” and does not throw abuse at these ladies/girls. MOST farang i know of that have lost everything deserved it. Either for their own stupidity or their own arrogance. I will add, i feel for the idiots, but do take considerable pleasure from seeing an arrogant “I am better than thee, you low life” self centred farang getting taken to the cleaners by an “Ill educated, stupid, know nothing Thai bar girl” .

          I know a number of these ladies and “god bless them” they take care of their families and put their kids through school with money from these people.

          Thai ladies are no diferent to other ladies in the world, most will recognise the phrase, “There is no such thing as a free ride”. I liked your comment about, if you marry a thai lady (admittedly, more so Isaan) their family becomes your family. Therefore, if you can help, you do so, if what you have nurtured is a sound relationship.

          I have met more farang whose company I would rather not have than Thais and, it is understandable that because of these total wasters, unfortunately all of us farang are painted with the same brush. That is, out and out slobs with no manners what so ever, in the eyes of most Thais.

          I enjoyed reading your article, thank you. You seem to have your feet firm on the ground.

          Paul

          PS Charles’ reply was sound.

        • Terry Uk September 7, 2012 at 3:18 am #

          Are you some kind of nut to get enjoyment out of some one else missfortune, who are not street wise trick’s of Thai women. and why should he have to pay for there family’s. it ‘s her responsibilitie not his. i think you are the arrogant barsted not them.

          T

  4. Jake June 15, 2012 at 10:56 am #

    I’ve got a certain friend, wise in the ways of the street corners after sunset. His take on men, “there be pimps, and there be johns”.

    You’re smart in trying to tell these herblets to spend ‘less’ money on these hoes. Because you realize that they won’t become pimps no matter what words you put in front of them.

    Take note, whitey knighteys … you know that while he’s writing this, Chris is really thinking “how much longer does my gf have to save up to afford her next vacation with me?” Because, if you have value as a man, a girl won’t expect you to pay for her time.

  5. ChiangMaiGuy June 15, 2012 at 10:57 am #

    well car loans and Issan girls in the same thread – that’s a first!

    unless………. this guy has found an Issan girl and is trying to buy her a car??? :P

    • Quick Question June 21, 2012 at 6:42 am #

      I usually find the poorest girl at each GoGo that works as a coyote and won’t “barfine” and buy them a car!

      I was curious and thought I’d ask since this thread talks about money.

  6. derek June 15, 2012 at 11:34 am #

    reading this article makes me think ….
    someone seems to be pissed off … big time.

    i am happily married to a so called isaan girl.
    guess what … i won’t miss a minute of it.

    looking at most of the married farangs here in thailand …. seriously, as a woman …. i wouldn’t prefer a 300 pounds, toothless, stinking, rude and stupid foreigner …. but for a couple of thousands baht a month i would tell him that he is the man of my dreams.

    i see no differences between the the women here in thailand, no matter where they come from. i think it’s important how you meat your future luck and how you treat her.

    respect the woman, respect yourself, respect the people in the country you are staying in as a guest. then there should be no problems.

    or do it like most of the high class foreigners and their “madames”. act like an idiot … and you’ll get treated as such.

    or for beginners:
    get a heavily tattoed bargirl with 5 years of work experience (of course she will only say “2 weeks”) in intellectually crowded places like pattaya or phuket. if she is already blessed with 3 foreigners kids, you got the jackpot. build her a house and buy her a car but please …..

    DO NOT WHINE LIKE A BABY when you get out empty handed.
    and most of all …. don’t write such silly articles later on.

    • Chris June 15, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

      As everyone knows here I’ve never been taken and I’ve never married a Thai girl and I’ve never dated an Isaan girl.

    • Terry Uk July 31, 2012 at 7:18 am #

      I think its you that write silly articles you may be married to a Thai but have not got a clue about the real thailand, no matter how much you repect there culture and people

    • Benny November 11, 2012 at 1:34 am #

      Dereck well said Mate. I am also married to a so called Issan Lady. You treat a lady like a lady no matter where they are from. I could not be happier with my so called Issan Lady. For those guys who stay away from so called Issan girls because of the bad stigma need to get there head out of their Arse and take a good look at them selfs before slagging another. Like i say treat a lady like a lady, If you want a sex toy go hang out at the sleezy bars and enjoy your new disease.

      • Bam January 9, 2013 at 7:57 pm #

        Benny
        Exactly !!!! Nice from you. Just treat of each other nice way no matter WHO .And I’m not from Isaan.
        All people in this world are human that needs same treat,that right? especially basic of life.

        Yesss,most of the time I look back at myself first,if were me how i feel …. hurt or happy in that situation.

        I understand everyone have own EGO just depend on person more or less.

        P.S. Not everyone same!

    • Andre March 9, 2013 at 7:50 am #

      very nice comments derek. Its funny how you always hear the sad stories. I met my wife during the tsunami she is a Thai Doctor we have been married for 5 years I have never given money to her or her family she has paid for everything seriously we have several businesses that we have opened in Isarn – Nong Bua lumpu, Korat, Ubon & Udon we also have 3 resorts on koh samui all from her. Oh and guess what shes a isarn girl and yes she came from a poor family. I think its so funny how everyone makes these comments about isarn women. its a little bit like saying that the everyone that comes from lousiana is a red neck or that every person from manchester is a cock head. Isarn is responsible for 78% of the countries GPD its also encompasses the largest population of Thailand so you would think that there is more than just BAR girls that come from there. as for money for families and so on. Take any woman anywhere in the world you meet, you date, you pay, you get married, you buy a house, you pay, family need help, you pay unless your heartless. (think to yourself your brother or sister calls you tomorrow his son little johnny needs an operation hes short 500 dollars do you help.

      • Chris March 9, 2013 at 10:41 am #

        well said.

  7. คลิฟ June 15, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    I put half the price of a new car down as the “down-payment,” and lived with a Buriram schoolteacher for a year and a half. It was always agreed that the car was 50/50. Of course I also remodeled the house, paid for a fence, carport, washing machine, t.v., notebook computer, and gave her money for her parents. When my life-savings was dwindled down to a pittance and I decided to break-up, and move to Bangkok.
    Now, 2 years later, I can’t get her to even discuss any compensation for MY half of the new car!

    • ChiangMaiGuy June 16, 2012 at 9:09 am #

      Dude what WERE you thinking…???

      probably with your ‘little head’ and not your ‘big head’

    • Quick Question June 21, 2012 at 6:43 am #

      Your comment is confusing. Was this a legal agreement?

    • Terry Uk September 10, 2012 at 12:47 pm #

      yes stop thinking with you dick, instead of your head.

      t

  8. Khun Dee (Dennis) June 15, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    I always say to my Issan girls, which I love the high cheeks and dark skin. Very simple ” I cum, you Go…they never have a problem with that. Get it, hit it, quit it….. My money,my car,my house are just that mine….man has to be only married once to learn lessons about 50/50…its not half of what you lose, its half of what you will never have again, 300-400K $US goes a long way in Thailand…now where is my phone with all those Issan girls numbers in it…..

  9. inyaface June 15, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

    ”As everyone knows here I’ve never been taken and I’ve never married a Thai girl and I’ve never dated an Isaan girl.”

    muahaahahhahaaaaaaaaa

    and what u did in pattaya? jerk off?

    you so sad btch! you know about quality white isaan girls?

    u never fcked a 19y white isaan student from khon kaen, who can not speak 1 word english?

    u think u know about the game?

    wuaahahha

    • Chris June 15, 2012 at 10:27 pm #

      You have a german address so I can only guess your german. let me school you a little on my mother language. “I’ve never dated an Isaan girl” that means I’ve never dated one, doesn’t mean I haven’t reamed them and sent them packing. Game all the Isaan girls you want dude, you don’t need much more than a pulse to get one. I’m sure your idea of white is different to mine and I don’t go for the loas look either it’s all yours dude again you have a pulse so your good. Come to Chiang Mai and I’ll give you a whole week to bone a girl from Payap then you come back here and try and mock me dude. I hate comments like this big all behind your computer whatever dude, I know about quality white isaan girls? Google “quality white isaan girls” and you get a stickman post about bar girls, shows how much you know dude but hey stick around you might learn something and not shout your stupid comments that can’t be backed up.

  10. Philthy June 16, 2012 at 3:29 am #

    Your posts are informative and hilarious. No homo. I love you man

    • Chris June 16, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

      thanks bro

    • Quick Question June 21, 2012 at 6:44 am #

      You’re supposed to say “no homo” after the “I love you”. Don’t you watch The Boondocks? I love that shit! No homo.

  11. wrevelater June 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    just the other day some dim-witted farang and two older thai broads walk into starbucks sit down, buy no drinks, and speak in super loud voices discussing how this idiot farang put his house in his ex-gf s name and how she s gonna fuck him over, while he sits there all kissy kissy with his new gf who s got evil money sucker written all over her.
    the money i earn is mine. i ve got no problem paying for dinner or movies or whatever, as long as im there. no way im handing my hard earned cash for any body or any pussy, for that matter.

    • ChiangMaiGuy June 16, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

      ‘a fool and his money is easily parted’ don’t be a bunch of wankers – you are a walking ATM to most Thai girls – you think you are different? live and learn – I never, ever fall for this ‘my Buffalo is ill’ crap

  12. tu June 19, 2012 at 2:58 am #

    Thailand has 41 ethics, and the ruling ethic is Tai Shan who naturally has white skin, and originally lived north in the south China. Shan or Siam. All Thai kings are shan or siam and have white skin. Siam conquerred the southeast asia from Khmer Empire which has been reduced to small size as today Kampucha, and Siam conquerred Malay Pinisula in the South (phuket) from Malaysia, about 250 years ago. Southeast Asia aborigines have dark skin, and were forced under rule by Tai Shan or Siam to be thai nationality. The dark skin in the south or Phuket is in fact malay ethic or the former land of malaysia, and the dark skin in the northeast Isaan are in fact dark skin southeast asian aborigine even mixed with chinese ethic immigrant, not thai ethic. Worthy of note all prostitutes or bar girls are dark skin issan or malay ethics, while Thai or siam kings are white skin like northern tai shan.

    • JoeWarner October 8, 2012 at 11:24 am #

      “Ethnicities”, not “ethics”. Please. It gets me confused.

  13. Daniel June 19, 2012 at 10:18 am #

    Let’s be honest this behavior is not specific to Isaan girls, it happens wherever there are fools with too much money.

    It was nice of you to add “The Will My Isaan Girl Screw Me Over Test” but I will do you one better. No man should ever send a woman what amounts to a salary for doing exactly nothing. Trust me she will still be there for those two weeks/year you spend in the country even if you don’t “take care of her”. If you do love a woman and decide to send money it should be no more than 1000 baht/month and should only be to supplement the income she has for working and extra should only be given in extreme circumstances. Also, unless you plan to live more than half of the year with her you should never send a dime and you should especially avoid buying property or cars because if you do she will own it not you. While you are living together there is nothing wrong with paying the bills and giving her some cash if she performs a non-girlfriend task like teaching you Thai.

    Most people I met in Thailand with successful marriages to Thai women have a few things in common. The woman works and will proudly spend her money instead of his, the woman saves and tries to better herself for the day he is no longer around and the woman’s only non-adult kids are by him.

    I hate it for any foreigner who gets cheated out of his money while chasing love, but I have no sympathy for them. I’m pretty up front with women about not sponsoring or taking care of them and it has never impeded their ability or desire to sleep with me. I would even venture to say that in some cases it has put up some much needed boundaries.

    We can’t really blame these women too much because most men benefit from the arrangement. I met a guy who gave an alleged university girl 20,000/month because she said for that price she would be a good girl, could love him and would only on call for him. Three months in he found out that she had a Thai boyfriend, other guys she was on call far and was not a student. We were drunk enough for me to get away with asking why he was so gullible and he said that it made him feel special to know that a girl was pretty much waiting on him.

    • isanozz June 19, 2012 at 7:52 pm #

      Very well said Daniel :) I like the way you think mate.
      At first I was really pissed off with yet another Isan bashing post as Isan is my home & I personally find the people & the women there to be the exact opposite of anything i’ve read here about Isan people/women. There is no where else i’d rather be & feel very protective of my adopted homeland. Alot are poor for sure but that would never stop a vast majority of them sharing their last meal with you & having a laugh. I think maybe it would have been more accurate to title this article “Stay away from Isaan BAR Girls or “Stay away from Isaan BAR Girls in Bkk/Pataya…etc” because the women i’ve met living in Isan so far are the exact opposite of what this article depicts(and sure there will always be exceptions). So far there has only been one that tried it on for size with me & she got told in no uncertain terms but all others of all ages & income levels(or lack there of) that i’ve met or been involved with have not been on the scam with me(in my experience).
      As I said, at first I was pissed about another Isan bag out but now realise that a post like this will only keep farang away from Isan which just means more for me :) I think this is a case of what your looking for will find you & if anyone is stupid enough to think that everything can be had by flashing around the Baht & thinking that everything can be bought then they will get exactly what that kind of thinking brings them.

      • Chris June 19, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

        lol, I’ve had plenty of guys start telling me to stop saying how great Chiang Mai is as I’m going to ruin the place and have it overrun by farang. I’m glad you can put a good spin on this and look at the bright side. While my advice is to stay away from Isaan girls I do stand by this, however if you speak Thai well then you should be able to judge a persons character well. I wouldn’t title a post stay away from Isaan Bar girls more like just stay away from Bar girls, the isaan part is already assumed.

        • pascal September 8, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

          well, i ll say i m agree with our friend from isan, i did date a lady from chiang mai having a normal job in bkk but i did just walk away cause she was the exact description of what you did said.
          so i assume isanozz is right, we can t compare isan girl and bar girl, i guess it should be hard to date a lady from isan working normally on a daily basis who is just looking for a perfect guy to spend her lifetime with. we all know lades work in bar to support their family and they will use all they have to reach this goal.
          now, guys should be clever enough to not fall in the trap and think before to act. they are bad man as well as bad woman everywhere in this world. beside i m sure we all are weaponize to feel and feel what the other do really feel ;) in fact spend a lot of money, time or whatever before to realize something is wrong with her or his partner should t happen …….just have to think first and cha cha ;)

    • Quick Question June 21, 2012 at 6:48 am #

      You said “Most people I met in Thailand with successful marriages to Thai women have a few things in common. The woman works and will proudly spend her money instead of his, the woman saves and tries to better herself for the day he is no longer around and the woman’s only non-adult kids are by him.”

      You mentioned her working and then having children. What if you’re married and she is your baby’s mama… then you need to choose if she works or takes care of the kids and household which is basically a job. If she’s doing that, why not give her 4k baht a month so she has something to spend or save instead of be stuck with food and shelter (and TV! LOL!)

      • Chris June 21, 2012 at 6:54 am #

        I think you raise a good point.

      • Daniel June 22, 2012 at 12:18 am #

        I absolutely agree and if I got a Thai woman pregnant I would want her to stay home and not work at the very least for the first 5 years of the child’s life (cost of living makes it more possible than in the west). I would give her not 4k, but enough to actually be comfortable on. I would still send money once the kid was old enough for school, but at that point she would need to at least work part time or have something else in her life to occupy her time than just watching soaps.

  14. David June 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    Had a laugh here Chris when you post in reference to what happened to your friend “what kind of cruel and evil person does that to a guy” referring to Isaan girls.
    My answer; perhaps the same type of person who would implement “The Plan!” to get rid of his GF and, after doing everything in your power for weeks to completely destroy her you write “WTF you’d think after pimping out a girl she’d be like FU and walk away.” Followed up by “So before leaving Porn gives me 5000 baht (which she secured from another man) and pays the rent blah blah blah (my payments still haven’t come through she thinks haha).”
    Are you serious Chris?
    I have known some very very evil Isaan girls. But, don’t for a moment think that what WE do (and yes, I will include myself because frankly I found your story about “The Plan!” humorous in a perverse sort of way) is above what Isaan women do when screwing over their latest catch. We just happen to be a little bit more sophisticated, but no less evil.

    • Chris June 20, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

      Perhaps I should write a story about “What Thai girls should know about Farang” actually that is my next article stay tuned.

  15. Chris Williams June 20, 2012 at 2:25 pm #

    Well Chris, I hate to say this but as far as Isaan girls are concerned, you seem to be right. That is that they are untrustworthy. There are so many stories in Thailand that could be written about the deception and heartbreak caused by broken relationships with Isaan girls there wouldn’t be enough room anywhere to store the books. Suicides, bankruptcy, separations, divorces, murders,, you name it, that all too often that bring heartbreak for the falang. Yes I had an unpleasant experience with one of them many years ago and I’ve since moved on but I have lived in this part of the world since 1982 so I can talk with some authority on the matter. I suppose there must be some exceptions to the rule as there is in everything however I’m sure not many.
    What strikes me as audacious (or is it tenaciousness?) is their complete sense of callousness ( focus?)in their dedication (or determination?) to get what they can, no matter what or how generous a suitor is to them. They are, or seem to be, completely without conscience. For example I have several Issan girl “friends” or should I say aquaintancers and one of I know currently, a”butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth” type has two Aussie ‘suckers’ each sending her Bht15,000 a month. Both call her EVERY day, although they are unaware of each other, and both only occasionally visit her about twice a year for two weeks at a time. They both think she loves them and she’s very careful to ensure that they don’t telephone her or visit Thailand at the same time. Oh yes she has more money in the bank than I do. But this is very typical, not atypical, of how these girls work. There must be hundreds if not thousands of guys in foreign countries sending money to Thailand every day in the blind hope of securing a lasting and happy relationship with an Isaan girl. The success of that happening must be less than 5%.

    To be fair to the Isaan girls though it must be explained that what they do is brought about more often by financial desparation. Isaan being a very poor area, many girls are forced to leave school early to help supliment the family income, have children fathered by a 16 or 17 year old boy also in the same position of penury who also cannot provide support for the offspring, and then sent to work in Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket by their own parents, who have to look after the ‘bastard’ child. Make no mistake the girls are under strict obligation to the carers of the children they had out of wedlock or otherwise they are cast out of their own families. They couldn’t live with that smear. Finally is it any different for poor girls struggling in similar circumstances in other Asian countries such as the Philippines, Cambodia, , Vietnam etc.?

    • Maxmillion September 30, 2012 at 7:01 am #

      You’ve summed it up well! I never understand why guys give lots of money directly to Thai girls, there are ways to have some control how the girls spend their money! personal remittance management is a service that some companies offer, to help make sure the money is spent the right way. This is an easy solution!

      • Paul October 1, 2012 at 2:20 am #

        Trying to control how these women spend the money you give them is futile. Most don’t care and think they can easily find other farangs to support them if she feels the money you give is not enough. No matter how much you give them it will never be enough as they have endless things they want for themselves- latest iphone, breast implants, dental work as well as the land, house, car, gold, handouts to the village etc..it never ends and enough is never enough. You will waste your time and energy trying to reason with them as they are just out to get what they want, they don’t care about your feelings or financial state. You can refuse their requests when they get greedy but they will act like spoiled little kids until they get what they want. You will just end up broke and she will find someone else eventually anyway. If it comes to the point where they try to blackmail you by saying she will see other farangs to get what she wants, just have the balls to terminate it with her then and there. You will be aware of how she really thinks and nothing will get better from there

  16. Gerard Roche June 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm #

    I’m with my girlfriend in Chiang Rai for 3 years and none of the above makes any sense to me. The girls of Northern Thailand are decent respectable girls but like everywhere else if you treat a woman and her family badly they will take there revenge. We have a lovely house and a bit of land, we take care of her parents and I am treated like a second son. I want for nothing. I work on the land more for a pastime than work itself and i do all this on 1000 usdollars a month. I agree if you meet these girl in Pattaya they have become corrupted by the lure of the big money. Try to meet one before they become corrupted and you will probably live happily for the rest of your life. I would trust the girls of Thailand ( not the bargirls ) before I would trust the girls of the western world

    • Working Tourist June 21, 2012 at 9:22 am #

      Getting your knowledge of thai people from this blog is akin to getting your knowledge about Americans from watching Jerry Springer :)

      • Chris June 21, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

        Where do you suppose people learn then Thai Visa? lol

  17. Chris Kerri June 21, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Chris i have a mate who took a thia girl out of a bar and put her on the bus and sent her home to surin he sent her money and took care of her she had a block of land which he built her a home at a cost of 1.5 million baht but before he built the house she had to sign a lease for 30 yrs this way she can’t throw him in fact he can throw her out of the home because it is his for the next 30 years, as he said i will bulldoze it down if she played up on him he lives over there six months of the year. I thought he was a very clever dude.

    • Chris June 21, 2012 at 1:10 pm #

      Well according to Thai law he can’t kick her out whether she owns the place or not some sort of squatters law he’d have to get the authorities to do so it’s a long drawn out process. If he demolishes the house and her stuff is in it then it’s up for charges. In the end I don’t think he’s smart at all after spending all that money. Besides with spending all that money you could get a girl who never worked in a bar doesn’t have any tattoos and doesn’t talk like she just came out of the Doonside pub.

    • Jim May 30, 2013 at 11:07 am #

      Your mate is not so smart, by signing the lease he puts himself in a position where he may not be able to make any claim for compensation, if things go wrong.
      Some people think too much, his G/F could have him removed by the police. You see a lease is a rental agreement and the land office will have set a rent, fail to pay and the lease is void.

    • jim May 31, 2013 at 10:16 am #

      Sometimes farangs think they are smarter than the Thais in their own country. Your mate may have signed away any right to claim money back. Depending on how he set it up, it he has leased house and land and tried to bulldoze it, he would go to jail.Jim

  18. Chris Kerri June 21, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    you should read a book called only 13the true story of Lon this girl is an Isaan girl it will help you to understand the poverty and why these girls do what they do to farrangs.I found this book facinating with what they will do to save face, i recomend a good reading for the novice travelling to Thailand.

  19. Mr Hoy June 21, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

    Best advice I ever had my very first trip back in 97 my friend who convinced me to go in the first place said.
    4 rules to live by and you will get on well while on Holiday.
    1. Never under any circumstance for in love
    2. Don’t speak badly on the King
    3. Respect there religion
    4. Absolutely never forget rule 1

    Served me well over the years living there things my be different, but you still see people loose their mind over these girls even long timers at times.

  20. Milbrath June 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    The first flag is having to send money home to the parents and selecting a girl you have to financially take care of. That isn’t going to end well 98% of the time.

    If you want to play Captain-Save-A-Ho, knock yourself out. This is paradise for you. But if you want something real, walk away from anything that NEEDS your money. And it doesn’t matter what country you’re in, that is just plain good advice.

  21. Jeff Thomas June 28, 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    Hi Chris,

    I read many of your posts and they are all very helpful, informative, precise, and gives your readers the real meat and cutting edge of your experiences, and the hard core true reality of how it really is with many of the girls here.

    I just wanted to comment on how I would never trust a girl from this region (regardless of how prejudice it may sound). It’s true and have myself, done in depth research about girls from this region (though never dated one), and simply discovered how their sole driving objective is simply, getting a foreigner’s money.
    It’s also amazing how many stories you hear about involving Issan girls and too gullible foreigners who think not with their brains, and end up getting screwed only asking themselves in the end, “Why did this happen to me?”
    If only they had taken that first step back before everything went to the fan,looked at all those little red flags going up as they’re traveling around the raceway and said, “Hmm, what’s wrong with this picture?”. . . . .

  22. George mandm June 28, 2012 at 9:40 pm #

    Hi Chris it was good to read about Isaan girls and yes you wright 100% but if you sit there and think it is just Isaan girls then you must be kiding me it is like that all over the world when it comes to woman ok i am from Austraila like you and the woman here are just as bad ok i have lost 2 house to 2 woman and it has cost me a lot of money like 1.5 mill ok and if i loss say 3 mill bht to a girl from Isaan then so be it but i have leant to play the game when it comes to girls from Isaan and i can say no and she no’s no is no not like all the men i have meet in Iassn most just say YES and that gives me the sh?ts but that is life and if i walk out on my Thai from Iassn i will come and see you and see what the girls from were you are ,are like .

  23. Vincent Zappa July 30, 2012 at 10:41 pm #

    Wife is most expensive hooker, have nothing to do with nationality.
    BTW, nice site, I just found it. Keep on great work and we can meet in CM for a beer in november.

  24. djlest August 1, 2012 at 10:34 am #

    Very True…
    I spent the last 10 years with isaan girls – one for 2 years, and one for 8 years. I have lost my sanity and a lot of money, but i setup a company in the current GFs name and i may as well have had children with her, im held hostage to her demands, but i make a decent amount of money, so does she. But still…

    One thing i notice the most about Isaan girls is, they are terrible with money. When they earn 100,000 a month, they blow it and show off like they are some born again high so. Western Logic dictates we should be careful, squirrel money away for a rainy day, a pension, sickness, a future where we are less affluent> Thai and moreso Isaan have absolutely no logic of this. As a result they become more greedy and will keep sucking money until you cant provide, then they have a choice – stay with you or find a new sponser, and keep living the dream, seriously do you really have to think they will choose love over (face/family adoration/village adoration/inflated ego)
    When you give a child candy, they smile like an angel, when you take it away they cry like a bitch – thais are just the same except they don’t cry, they seek vengence.

    • James June 4, 2013 at 2:02 am #

      O ok you must be really stupid to put up with that behaviour I know that I for one cant stand people who spend money trying to impress others as it just makes them look like showoffs and clearly arnt all that rich anyway, the rich people actually dont spend money thats how you know they are rich lol but theres stupid issan girls that you adore so much and trust me they are the lower scum of society you think they care what you think?…and with there small peanut sized brains you think they even know what saving money means?…well I rest my case lol fools

  25. Jai Dee August 19, 2012 at 4:50 am #

    Just from my own observations and experiences…If the falang partner is not able to fully adapt ,without prejudice,to life in the “Muu Baan” then he is usually doomed to a lonely existence.
    Westerners tend to see and evaluate everything within their own frame of reference,and along with their ignorance of the language and the cultural behavior in Thailand,run into many problems

    My Thai wife (from Mae Rim) not Issan has lived in Canada for 11 years now,and we still have a couple of houses and some land and a little business (breeding betta splenden fish farm) in Mae Rim area
    Our relationship has always been based on mutual respect and friendship ( I know her for 17 years,married over 11 years…!
    I had one Issan girlfriend back in the mid 1990’s and she was actually pretty nice..when I think about it… it was me..the swine…who left her…for a very naughty woman from Mae Tang area..what a 2 year roller coaster ride that was !!!
    We all have to make our own experiences…and hopefully learn from them.
    Best of luck to all

  26. Paul September 6, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    I have spent the last 10 years in relationships with Isaan girls, the first for 8 years and the second for 2 years. Both were relentlessly greedy and forthright about asking for money once the relationship was established. I have spent many, many millions of baht over that time on them that was for nothing, as far as I am concerned and I often think now how much better off I would be if I left all that money sitting in my own bank account where it belongs. In the early stages of knowing them they were pleasant and fun to be with but before long they upped their demands to be sent cash. Even after all the money I gave them, they both became more arrogant, rude and bitchy to me over time. They both also became incredibly lazy when I met up with them. In the last few times I was with the latest girl she was too lethargic to even bother getting out of bed or the room to go to breakfast or even go outside the hotel. This after sleeping for at least 12 hours every night. They both acted like spoiled little kids, but treating them too generously makes them think like that. Even after talking to them about this bad attitude I could see that it was hopeless and they wouldn’t change. I tried everything to make these relationships work but in the end I made the decision to cut my losses. Not an easy decision when you were serious about sharing a future together ‘investing’ all that money and time in trying to keep them happy. Part of the problem is that their families pressure them for money and they feel obliged to give everyone in the village a handout from the farang’s money.

  27. dean September 7, 2012 at 1:46 pm #

    Have to mis quote u here Chris,i once dated a CM girl . i even moved to CM to be with her, a unigirl. found out later her lilly white skinned ass worked for a local CM whore agency.
    CM ( not all ) girls are just as bad, even saw a young CM girl on the corner of a street, she was bait for farang , one guy jokingly grabbed her ass , yes wrong , but she pushed it to his hand i saw it, and later the police came , she was the cheif of police daughter told to stand there and bait men , the guy was later fined 50,000 baht.
    Farang beware ALL over thailand now. not just cos its got a bar does it mean there whores.

  28. Chris September 9, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    Sorry for him?? No, its a stupid man.. And i not complain issan girl because she worked!!!

  29. Chris September 10, 2012 at 6:06 am #

    My friends, you need to understand the working girls! They do their job, they work for money is like that …
    Of course some men fall in love, but they should think a little …
    Where do you meet your GF ? You cannot blame the girls, it’s only YOUR FAULT if you spend your money …..

    You want to change their lives? but they don’t want !
    they just want your money for their families, their Boy Friend, or even their husbands …

    I living here since longtime, I hear these stories every day …
    How do you think I can complain these farangs?

    Give you some money each month to prostitutes in your country ? Do you walking hand to hand with the prostitutes in your country ? Do you buy a car? A house? at the prostitutes in your country ? Take time to think …

    Sorry for my english, hope you can understand
    But we will not change the world or the idiots …

    Chris (Phuket)

  30. คลิฟ September 10, 2012 at 9:20 am #

    You’re right Chris – we are all such idiots for caring, trying to improve someone’s lot in life, believing what’s told to us, giving the benefit-of-the-doubt, having a heart and trusting that people are basically good- What a bunch of stupid jerks!

    After all, giving free (farang) money to everyone you know, buying everything you can, presenting the (Thai) b/f or husband with a new house, car or motorbike is all they’re doing!

  31. Gerard Roche September 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm #

    I fully agree, the men wouldn’t give to the girls in their own countries so why in Thailand. Probably has something to do with the professionalism of these girls and their sheer beauty and the fact that all men are idiots when it comes to the fairer sex. I still believe however that any man who goes to prostitutes is insecure and deviant. When they get the “urge” they would be better off masturbating and leave these poor mis-fortunate girls alone

  32. jester September 15, 2012 at 11:54 pm #

    “Stay away from Isaan girls”….”I have never been taken for a ride”

    What a load of absolute shit.

    The words of wisdom from a so called Thailand expert farang. I live in Pattaya and have for more than 4 years. The most ruthless bitches here are the whiter breed from the north.

    Please continue the education. You have a beautiful white Thai girl who loves you so much that she does not mind if you have a kik on the side.

    I could lose count of the number of morons like you that run blogs to supplement their lifestyle based on their own assumptions. Most of these guys run blogs like yourself to present the appearance of being all knowing. Either that, or they latch onto the holiday lads as soon as they arrive to play the role of king of the kids.

    The last loser I met that got taken for a ride was from Chiangmai and spent 3 years learning Thai. He was fluent in Thai, both oral and written. He had his beautiful white Thai Chiangmai princess with him and she was using him for money and giving all to her Tom girlfriend.

    I must follow your advice in the future and register for online dating, offer a free noodle dish at the local food cart, and if I don’t get free sex within 3 hours, I will be shattered.

    I look forward to your next quality installment.

    How about, “no descent Thai woman of any color would be seen near a farang due to the perception of all others”. That concept is probably a bit much for you to grasp, so maybe another installment of,”how to share one bowl of noodles and get free sex within 20 minutes” would be better.

    Great blog. Now I know what I have been doing wrong for 4 years.

    • Chris September 16, 2012 at 1:34 am #

      At first I was going to hit the trash button on your “Know it all” comment but then it came to me, you see you live in Pattaya probably the only place you’ve ever actually been, you can’t speak a word of Thai and so that makes you jelous of any guy who can and that’s why you read all those blogs to fill your own ego but the reality is you still don’t know anything because your too cheap to pay for the good information.

      Since you live in Pattaya I’m sure you’re well schooled on the girls there and know yourself finding a northern girl is like finding a needle in a haystack I’ll agree with you too those CM girls that do make it there are probably worse than the isaan girls exactly why they are in Pattaya! Finally there wouldn’t be more than 5 blogs in Thailand that would make enough money to live here and even though this one is rated number one it’s not my only income!

      So next time your going through the motions with some isaan go go girl down in Pattaya paying her the 600 baht bar fine plus the rest, think of me up in the north getting laid with hot white skinned Thai teens for 30 baht plus room!

      Lastly I’ll say this buddy, I’ve been coming to Thailand since before puberty I know more about Thailand than 99.9% of the other jokers who have set up websites in fact most are copying from me or have asked my advice! It’s not just the newbies who have signed up to this blog but guys who have lived here for more than 10 years, we all share a common interest and that’s Thailnd and Thai girls. Some Isaan chicks are alright just as some Chiang Mai girls are bad, but the percentages are in my favour.

      So thanks for reading I doubt you’ll admit it but you did learn something or you wouldn’t have read more than 10 of my articles. Best of luck bro.

    • pascal October 8, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

      i m so agree with this, anyway seems some mist the point “evolution” all is on a move peoples, country, mentality…..saying isan girls are this or that is realy silly and show only you guys are not able to look beyond your nose.
      and the one pretending being expert and had been copy or asked by many is the master of this shit, anyway i guess he s just good enought to spend most of his time sucking a beer somewhere with his old fellow doing the same.
      fact is peoples will just give you back what you bring first, it could be thai or anybody . be nice with peoples and they will be nice to you, might be isan girls or those living on the ice pack…same same. if you are a shit you will get shit….end of story.

  33. jerry September 23, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    I first went to Thailand with a buddy 20 yrs ago. My buddy was what could only be charitably described as a “romantic fool”. He went through several relationships with Thai girls, all of who pretty much took him for a ride. To put it simply there are a couple of different types of guys: Pragmatic guys and romantic fools. If you are the latter, stay away from Thailand. I’m personally the former. One great thing about Thailand is the old saying: “There’s plenty of fish in the sea” really is true. In the West young attractive females are in lesser supply and harder to get for us older gents. Even meeting them can be difficult. In Thailand however you can meet plenty, sure their motivations can be questionable but you can always move on to the next one in line. I used to go crazy telling my buddy to not fall for the first one that shows interest, just wait, keep going out and evaluate the girl for a while, but no he falls in love with the first taste of poontang and starts forking over the cash. Sure, we’re all eager to get companionship, sex and an emotional connection but you got to push it to the background until you’ve ascertained a girl is not a user.
    I find all this arguing over what kind of Thai girls are users, whores, better or worse, yada yada… all nonsense, girls are the same everywhere, it’s you guys that are ruled by your romantic delusions and the brain behind your zipper that are the problem. I understand that a certain amount of financial assistance is expected, that’s cultural and understandable considering the economic advantages people in the West have. When I meet girls for the first time I tell them I have a minimal pension and that’s it, if they don’t like it then I move on until I find one that doesn’t need to be showered with voluminous amounts of cash. They’re out there, if you’re patient and not impulsive and desperate.

  34. Gordon October 19, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    seems you are all talking about an Issan girl I know named Kanyavee/Monica/Pizza

  35. oscar December 16, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    Do not forget to use a condom, remember if she got pregnant your life is over, the baby will be hostage to money, the think happened to me,,,they don”t care about baby ,just they want money for Family and friends ,,,,,

  36. oscar December 16, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

    I think is about series the show in thai tv too ,,all the series about money and Luxury issan girls favorite ,,,,,,,

  37. m December 18, 2012 at 10:51 am #

    Holy fuck. You guys are unquestionably the biggest bunch of losers ive ever seen (the author of this abortion of an article being number 1) Ill give you chumps a hint why it wont work out with you and these girls. Its not the fact that theyre from Isaan. Its you. And its all woman. Im sure your as repulsive to the good girls as you are to the gold diggers. Fuck sakes.

    • Chris December 18, 2012 at 11:29 am #

      Another holy than thou ESL teachers, probably a closet gay pedophile who’s only reason for teaching is to get to the young ones. Sick Fuck

  38. brian December 22, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Chiang Mai girls are the worst. They know the game, milk it for what it’s worth, and twist the knife in your back just after you realize you’ve been had.

    Most people in Chiang Mai aren’t even originally from Chiang Mai.

    It’s all sweet smiles masking deception. Ask any Thai guy. They’ll tell you. Northern Thai girls are highly prized, and they know how to get what they want. They deal with Japanese, Thai, Chinese, Korean–all of ‘em. And for all this knowledge, when they do want a quick cash infusion, they go to Singapore and are rated the lowest of the whores.

    Don’t tell me the north has the classy girls.

    I lived in Thailand for two years. 14 months in Chiang Mai–miserably most of the time, and 9 months in Chiang Rai. Chiang Rai is more low key. The only difference is that they don’t care about farang, but they won’t hesitate to play the game.

    The hope for the north is that the Christian element is alive there, but if you go the the First Church of Chiang Mai and listen to the dogma, it’s a watered-down, God loves everyone…and He’ll let the good Buddhist into Heaven, too. There’s nothing about Christ in the preaching. Further north you find the Baptists along the Tachileik/Mae Sai border. Perhaps more Christ centric. In Bangkok Church of Joy has the style of a Baptist fundamentalism. Basic. Easy. Simple.

    In Udon I’ve found the people to be very friendly, simple, straightforward, and polite. They’re more genuine.

    I don’t hang out in the bar areas. After more than two years here, I still avoid them.

  39. oracle February 8, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

    Heres a tip..cash talks bullshit walks..the more you have the more you get to do whatever the fark you like..take advantage.. fark it your paying ..isaan girls have got death or open the boom gates staring them in the face..7 billion people in the world..are you farkin kiddin me..emotion is for pussies…fuck them silly ..tarp up like a spaceman..get smashed ..and go crazy till the buzz leaves you..then fark off and do it all again….if you sucuumb to that blood infested..uti ravaged..thing called a mouni..you deserve to get rolled..

  40. Nam February 9, 2013 at 7:11 pm #

    You just have met the wrong person. Many nice, loyal, honest out there. I am the one from Isaan but a West guy used me for last 7years. I’ve got nothing from him and I never asked for anything. Sadness huh…I’ve been with him without money involved, I loved him so much. All I wanted was a nice family but all I got he treated me like a slut. So some good Isaan girls out there!

    • Chris February 10, 2013 at 10:36 am #

      I’m sorry that happened to you, perhaps i should write a story for Thai girls about what players are like in Thailand, mmmm, maybe not, I’ll be shooting myself in the foot.

  41. WE February 24, 2013 at 6:34 am #

    Isaan is Isaan, the most 99.99% work or worked in a bar or other human services, they are not educated, IQ between 70-80, they only listen to their family, the Thai man is bad?Thats because the girls are same, they drink alcohol more than a normal person, so the most British love them, as the most who come over here are also basic educated full of tatoo and fuck here and there, they fit the best with the Isaan, I stay wel over 12 years here and know those insects who eating insects also.
    Do you realy want a wife or just something to hang around with? Even in Europe you would not build a home and buy a car or and give family land and money without getting married and save your money by let it hold by a company without her family inside, wel ?! if you do then possible your IQ is lower than the Isaan <50 as at the end they walk away with all! and you,you are expentable. Oh by the way I am married with a Thai, not Isaan // who can communicate with them have to be the same level// some are lucky but the most are get F up// you can get a girl out of a bar, but never the bar out of the girl, they wil always think about money only. so are there family members.

  42. sucker March 24, 2013 at 5:49 am #

    Im married to a so called thai isaan girl for 10 years,since i lost my job a couple of times and had to sell the care to survive it went down hill.It is all about money,not only in thailand,look at the animal world the bitch stays with the dude that brings in the meat to feed the young not with the one that dosent hunt.!

  43. snartface April 11, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    My son is caught in one of these vile sluts grip. Thai people are in general reptilian. How anyone can be fooled by their fake smiles is beyond me. Its a rotten corrupt dump from top to bottom. I only go for the food. :-)

  44. Sirada. Prachayaka April 13, 2013 at 1:37 am #

    Hi Khun Chris.
    when I read story you write about Thai -esan gril.I really feel bad to here like this.I come from Esan too.Yes a lot of esan gril work in bar or look for yurop man but not all 100% bad lady like u thinking. Have some good some bad.I don’t no why u think like this maybe have something happen with u before and make u think wrong about Thai gril.I not so good English but I can read and understand what you mean.Hope you understand and one day if you find good lady maybe you can change your mind..
    xx.
    Sirada

  45. david nz May 23, 2013 at 10:09 am #

    Hi Chris,1st time ive read / come across ur site. I usually read Stickman. I enjoyed urs too.Thank u. I have an isan lady.Introduced by mutual friends in NZ.Ive Known her >2yrs. She appeared to be ok(maybe) Having said that, I recently found out she probably had a bf in thailand for a while after she meet me.Lust not love. When I found out, she seemed mak genuine in her remorse & has been since then very honest about what happened & has moved a long way away from that area. So that she can reestablish her mak damaged relationship with me.And she has asked me to not send her any more bth.She said she will work for her family & herself.So that is my red flag. I thought her & I were all ok. I understand a reasonable amount about thai culture& its not uncommon for them to have bf / gf’s.At present Im not living in Thai.(+ I have done the same thing myself many times in the past yrs..not with her tho.) She has been out to my country a couple of times & same for me to Thailand . I meet her family 1st time. Great people I have supported her & family as she has had an opp & a few minor medical problems, making it impossible for her to work FT. I ‘m in the medical profession so that part is true. I have to say apart from that 1 problem.(stopped now) she is absolutly brilliant. She is now back @ work( I know where & what she does for work,in her mothers & her small town) I am willing to 4give her if she is 100% true from now on. I have a way of checking! I do love her mak mak but I’m not a hopeless romantic. any way .. Thank u & Cheers. D.L.

  46. Ploy May 27, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

    well,yea, stay away if you silly :P

  47. jim May 31, 2013 at 11:32 am #

    A bit on the fence on this, but there is no perfect truth when it involves people,
    First I would say look at it from the bar girls side. You meet her in a bar and her replacement is in the next bar at anytime. Not much security for her and all women want security. How many farangs before you, promised her the world, got on a plane home and never returned.
    No matter how loyal or true she may be with you, you can still walk away leaving her nothing, but older.
    Guys who send money from overseas and come on 4 or 6 week holidays a year. Do you really think any woman any where, would put her life on hold, sitting in front of a TV for 10 months of the year.
    Then you have the real losers who come from their boring mundane jobs, telling the world they are loaded. Throwing money around like there is no tomorrow, then head home broke and blaming the bar girl for their stupidity.

    Here’s a true story. Some years ago I was contacted by a guy, who would you believe had meet a girl in Pattaya. It was his first time in Thailand, he left his hotel an entered the first Go Go and one of the girls said hello. That was it, head over heals in love. He e mails me after his return home, I living about 50 km from the girls village and could he come and talk to me about the dowry and the wedding etc.

    A month or 2 later he arrives with a stunning tall Issan girl and lots of questions. Now this guy is rich, not good job rich, but money is and never will be a problem rich. I tell him take is slow, come and live here before you commit, if you want to send her money and can afford, fine.
    2 weeks later he comes back to our house for the night, he has bough her a 4 mil Baht operating rubber plantation, places a 50 percent deposit on a brand new twin cab pick up truck and paid to have the mums house done up.
    Next trip over is the blessing, big party, more money gone. He then leaves for 8 months,Next trip over he does not find a stunning Issan Go Go dancer but a village farm girl who has put on a bit of extra weight.
    Next trip back he goes to Pattaya and doesn’t tell her, he is now a regular Pattaya goer and has never returned to his Thai bride.
    The girl visits us on occasions, she is in fact a very nice girl and would have made a good true, loyal wife and she can’t understand why he never came back.
    There are a thousand stories, jaded girls and crazy farangs, as I tell all, do nothing here that you would not do in your own country, until you know the rules of the game. Jim

    • Chris June 1, 2013 at 7:24 am #

      I don’t see any girl in the world waiting around for some guy to return to the country, even married i can’t see that happening. Women need affection love and sex as much as guys do. If you can’t live here with her and she cant’ live back home with you for whatever reason. There’s no point in being together or sending money.

  48. Pascal June 4, 2013 at 4:04 am #

    Well. Readind all coments i guess some get bad experience some have good. As far as i m concerned i did meet thai lady few years ago educated from bkk family, she was pissing om isan dark skin girls but acting not differently than what i read here. So i ll say from where ever they comes u have good and bad peoples. Today i m in relation with a nice girl from buriram. She did not get chance to go uni but she has the main life values. We must keep in minds we all come from differents cultures and horizons. Establish a good relationship will depends of borh sides. It s stupid to say isan ladys are bad or whatever we r all more or less all the same. Besides many of them try to survive and life drive them into a path wich is not the best from the point of u of western guys. At the end of the we should be all able to feel and see if feeling is true and guenine. For those who can t feel for sure mistake and desapointment will be the result. We r all human.

  49. Marco August 11, 2013 at 2:13 pm #

    I think this article sheds light on one aspect of the problem, Chris, the author recommends you test your thai girlfriend, by giving her a bunch of money for a few months, and then leaving on vacation, then telling her that you won’t be back for 6 months. Seriously, would you do this to a Western woman, and expect her to still love you after? It’s utterly disrespectful and I can’t believe you seriously recommend this, but it tells more about your respect for thai woman, than about the women themselves. I think that a lot of you guys “earn” the love they give you with your money, instead of earning it with romance, love, etc. And then you’re suprised that when there’s no money, she no longer wants you. Maybe if you respected and loved them more they would still stick with you through hard times.

  50. Gerard August 13, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

    Hi Marco, I’m not surprised that Chris has this attitude afterall if you follow his postings you will see that he thinks of women in general (especially Thai Girls ) to be nothing more than there for his sexual gratification. He promotes whore mongering where-ever he goes and constantly gives advice on where to find the “best” girls. I live in Chiang Rai but I knew him when he lived (I understand he is in Pattaya now ) and he is nothing but a self opinionated narcisstic prick. People in Chiang Mai avoid him because he is considered bad company. He surrounds himself himself with similar thinking expats and then considers himself popular while they hang on his every word (idiots). May he never come to Chiang Rai where we enjoy a real Thai lifestyle with real Thai ladies, most of us are married, and happily so, Chris close down this page you are doing a great dis-service to the expat community and go back to your own country where you can waffle away all you want or is that why your in Thailand, because you have no friends back home.

    • Chris August 18, 2013 at 8:22 pm #

      You know me, what a joke, I recognize the face but to say that you know me is ridiculous. Your statements about whore mongering are only half true. I also promote banging normal girls. Reality is I avoid most fuckers, people like you.

  51. Gerard August 19, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    Ah yes you couldn’t even put together a constructive reponse such is the level of you intelligence, you poor ignorant idiot. The reality is most people avoid you, not you avoiding them. You really must be an unwanted human being back home with an attitude like that. Your reply only confirmed what I said but you are probably to stupid to see that. Thai girls are among the most beautiful selfless ( do you know what that means) woman in the world and you are doing them a dis-service by writing and promoting such rubbish. I am well aware that there will be plenty who will follow you -poor lost mis-guided souls. It is poverty that drives some girls into the sex trade and predators like you are only too happy to abuse them. Abusing peoples poverty is the lowest form of a human being, so what does that say for you?

    • Chris August 20, 2013 at 10:10 am #

      my level of intelligence, lol. How many years you lived here now ey, can you even speak Thai? You think you konw more about Thai people than I do yet you couldn’t even follow a simple conversation that I’d have with a Thai person หรือว่าถ้ากูพิมไทยจะอ่านออกไหมนะมึงเหี้ยจริงๆ I guarantee you I have more friends in Thailand and abroad than you ever will. Many who follow me, your so funny, how is it that you read my website ey. Normally I just delete idiot responses like yours but it’s fair to say that it’s you who does not know what your talking about, and yes sir you don’t know me as for abusing peoples poverty you’ve got to be kidding me.

    • HappyInBKK August 20, 2013 at 10:40 am #

      Gerard, I for one an NOT a “follower” of Chris-or anyone else. I find most of his writings to be actual, fact-based and congruent with my experiences in Thailand.
      (I’ve been coming here since 1973.) You obviously need to convince yourself of
      your “holier-than-thou” outlook by saying that Thai pooyings are “the most selfless…” -that’s too much for me to stomach. Yes, Chris and many others like to enjoy variety- but hey, that’s just normal for a man younger than 65. If you want to judge others, it doesn’t affect them- it just defines you as someone still needing to be judgmental. After you’ve had a little real experience with Thai pooyings, I’m sure you’ll find them to be just as controlling, selfish, greedy, sweet, charming, delightful… as women in any other country.