Why do Thai girls lie cheat and steal?
I know the title of this article might seem a little harsh but honestly I've never met any other race of girls who are more prone to lying than Thai girls. Sure western girls might (for the most part) be total bitches but at least they are (mostly) honest faithful and don't rob you for petty change.
So you guessed it I was duped. Doesn't happen that often but even someone as experienced as I with Thai women can get the odd girl that tries to pull one over me.
I met this Thai girl online about a month ago she seemed nice and all that, good lay, fun times. But I was sure and still am sure that she was hiding something, probably a husband she doesn't want me to know about. Whatever I'm pretty open as long as your open with me.
We make plans to have dinner the other night and I call her up and she says she can't come out because she has to get up at 4am in the morning (she owns a salon) no worries. Well this is around the corner from my place and I normally sleep about 6am so I went by her shop on my way back from 7eleven about 5am. You guessed right, the shop was closed and she was nowhere to be seen.
I call her up the next day and I ask her if she was tired from getting up so early she says "yes very tired, now i'm in bed because I get up so early"....hmmmm. So I ask her what time she opened the shop she says she opened it at 4am and was there till midday. hmmmm lies lies lies. I don't tell her I went by at all. These Thai girls always lie about everything so I just realize I can't believe a word she says.
So I arrange again to meet up with her last night. I called her at 7pm to confirm and she says she was with customers and couldn't talk. No problem, so I wait around for her to call back which she said she would. Next thing you know i'm waiting and waiting and waiting it's like 9pm now and she is nowhere to be seen. hmmm I drive up past her shop and it's closed and she ain't there. So I call her up and she doesn't answer....
Normally you get this type of shit from younger chicks and this bitch is like 35 so you'd expect for her to outgrow this childish BS already but it's like it's ingrained in Thai girls to lie to you even over the stupidest things. She could have told me she was on a date I wouldn't give a shit just tell me so I ain't waiting around at 9pm it's harder to arrange another lay for the night dammit!
Standing out the front of her Salon still she calls me back, I tell her i've been waiting for her to call and she is like oh i can't see you tonight because I have to get up early again, where are you? I tell her I'm at Tapae Gate in 7 eleven "where are you I ask". "Oh i'm just closing the salon and walking out the door!"
Damn these Thai chicks must think we're all stupid or something I'm standing out he front of the salon that she says she is walking out of the door and she ain't nowhere to be seen. What's up with that?
I have a really good gut instinct when it comes to girls lying to me. I've caught out more lies than I can think of and this stupid bitch continued with her lies even after she was caught out. I honestly could care less if she wants to see me or not but I hate being f'd around taking time away from other adventures I could pull out of my little black book.
I ended up calling my mate up and going to a few hostess bars around Chiang Mai which i'll post in the next few days and had a good night but didn't get laid which was OK I forgot all about that bitch who made me wait around for her.
What is it about Thai girls that they are so pre-dispositioned to lie. Why is it that every single Thai girl I've ever met has told me a fib not once but multiple times. I don't care good Thai girls, bad Thai girls, Thai bar girls, Thai coyote girls, Thai university girls, Thai school girls, they are all full of shit and you should never believe a word they tell you until maybe a few years after dating them and even then I wouldn't. Take what you are told by Thai girls with a grain of salt.
A person in Thailand who lies a lot is called ตอแหล which means someone who tells fibs, but that's what google would tell you. ตอแหล in English really means bullshit artist and that's what most Thai girls you meet are really like.
I think it’s just in their nature. To westerners lying is something very negative and very dishonest (Of course besides ‘white lies’, where you don’t want to hurt someones feelings for example). Like you say, even when you catch someone red handed lying, and you confront them, they still deny it! Thais see nothing wrong with it! I even split up with my old girlfriend, because of the constant lying. (And see was very educated, she had a well paid job, and she was a mature lady too.) Some of them will never change this habit, so it’s best to cut your losses and cut them adrift. My advice is, if you are looking for a serious long lasting monogamous relationship, you have to lay down the ground rules. I have been with my present girlfriend a few years now. (She doesn’t need me for money, as she has a good office job) Initially, she tried it with the lying, but i wouldn’t have any of it! You can read them like a book! And, if you have been here long enough, you know the signs and you know the old yarns too! Basically, i told her any nonsense and we are finished, no messing! And, since the years have passed, she hasn’t faltered. Also, is just down to a bit of luck too, after going through so many rotten eggs ha ha!!
I think you have to be a bit street wise if you plan to be here long term, and not be ‘wet behind the ears’! Thai women often complain good men are hard to find, but i think finding a good Thai woman is a lot harder!
As those strange Vulcan aliens would say ‘Live long and prosper’!
Ben Johnson signing out!
Lying seems to be all about saving face here, or something like that. It’s good that you can write Thai and all, but most of your readers are going to know what the hell ตอแหล means just by looking at it. Would a transliteration have been more helpful? dto lae or something like that. Of course, the guys that live here know that, but your average Joe looking for info on Thailand might as well be reading Chinese.
Great idea for a blog post though, perhaps you could do a series on lying, cheating and stealing
I once got robbed by a couple of ladyboys, but I actually busted their door in and took back what they had stolen…crazy times!
best I did was get felt up by a few ladyboys, they enjoyed it I didn’t I was 13! If I get lied to again I’ll write another story, your not wishing it on me are you? lol
sorry dude forgot to mention about the translation. Most people would probably go to google to do the translation but if they are a regular reader they have probably already bought the learn the Thai alphabet book and can read it already and if not all the more reason to do so 🙂
They think for some reason we are stupid..
Yeah, for some reason, it’s a mystery 🙂
Viewpoint: The good side of lying
So what is a lie? Well, I suppose it’s a deliberate attempt to deceive by saying something that isn’t true.
Sounds like she made you her ‘kik’…. therefore 2nd priority. Sucks that she blew you off, I wouldn’t take it personally. I’d maybe focus on other girls, if she calls you back and you are free, you can agree to meet her. But if something else comes up that’s even half exciting, you can just go do that instead, and choose whether or not to ‘forget’ to tell her about it. After all, at this point you’ve got about a 50/50 chance she’d show up anyway right? Just say mai pen rai, don’t give a shit. 😉
She probably didnt want to see you! Get over it.
Spits the dummy when the shoes on the other foot..
I was just having this conversation with a few Thai girls a few days ago about the incessant lying… it is exhausting to deal with if nothing else. Usually I just ignore it if I am getting laid and have no intention on making the relationship long term. What is funny is that everyone will complain that I am a ” jao-shuu” but I have no choice. I have to make plans in quick succession because I already know that out of 5 rock solid plans laid out for a day, 2 to 3 of them will not happen… and will be backed up by some weak lies.
Another good word to know is กระต่ายขาเดียว gra-dtaai kaa diao meaning ” a rabbit (standing) on one leg ” Thais use this to mean someone who keeps lying -even after- they have been caught red-handed. My first x-Thai gf lied that she had any other man even though I confronted her with undeniable proof…. she started yelling at me and the more obviously guilty she was, the more she yelled. ….. and then of course she married this non-existent guy 4 days later 🙂 That is the epitome if gra-dtaai kaa diao. Her husband died in an accident 10 days later, but too late to get me back. (not a lie).
Upside is that she sees his death in part as punishment for her lying and has not lied to me in the last 4 years and we are very close friends… though I will never trust to be in a relationship with her again.
Interesting story. Thais are very superstitious, and yes she will truly believe that this is her punishment for all her lying. And i bet she went to the temple to ask for forgiveness too, worried she maybe reborn as something bad in the next life! Bad karma!
Look it’s quite simple – Thai’s just are unable to know the difference between lying and telling the truth! they are just incapable and it’s not that they ‘mean’ to lie most of the time but just that they just don’t know the difference. I have Thai’s lie to me constantly and I’m used to it now – they honestly cannot tell the difference and most importantly they do NOT CARE.
Go figure out the lesson for yourself 🙂 but most Thai’s lie as soon as they open their mouths – so I just smile now. Example:
I pick up a hot chick at a club – spend the night. I ask her ‘what are you doing tomorrow night’? she says ‘I go to province and to temple with my Mother’. Next night I unexpectedly go back to same club as I was asked by a friend – and there she is all over another farang. I just smiled – all fair game of course but it does feed my cynicism.
I know some Swiss investment bankers who during a business trip to Bangkok decided it was a swell idea to open a pizzeria with Thai partners, for ‘fun’. What! I said. Are you crazy? Oh no, they assured me, the Thais are such nice people. You can guess how that turned out, and after maximum cash extraction was complete, even the pizza ovens disappeared! 🙂
🙂 investment bankers are fair game
Sorry to hear of your bad experience man. If it’s that bad, maybe you shouldn’t hang out with any Thai girls at all. There are people who are pathological liars all over the world and I can’t swallow the thought that there are more of them here. Maybe in certain crowds, but it’s not fair to judge an entire race from your bad rap. As a Thai citizen, I feel sorry and shamed that my fellow countrymen caused you sorrow and pain. I can only hope that there is good somewhere in my country that made you stay or continue to come back. Bashing the entire race is not what I consider sensible. But heck, that’s just my opinion. There are, trust me, Thai girls who are not liars, cheaters, and thieves, just as there are elsewhere in the world. If you continue to get shit from girls like you said, I think you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd for sure.
I’m not talking about everyone i’m just talking about a large majority, there are exceptions to the rule and there are of course honest girls in Thailand. Don’t you think it’s more of a coincidence that so many people have the same/similar experiences that we come to the conclusion that most Thai girls lie. just saying.
But it might be in better taste to state that you’re not intending to badge the Thai race as a whole as dishonest. I’ve had bad raps and discriminating experiences in other countries as well, but did not feel there is a need to condemn anyone. I’ve been robbed and mugged in at least 2 US cities, but still have good friends there and blame the circumstances rather than blame Americans. I think that you need to look at the whole surroundings of where you were and the kind of sluts you had the displeasure of being with. I’ve lived here all my life and have had numerous friends from around the world who enjoyed their visits here without a single incident like yours. But then again I can’t speak for everyone. But I think you know what I mean. I pray that you meet better people. Hope your stay here wasn’t entirely awful. Cheers.
Seems like your getting angry at me saying I’m generlizing everyone then also generalizing about the women I meet. I didn’t call Thai women sluts, you did.
Got to agree with Chris was there for 10 years on and off and its hard to find a honest Thai and if you cant speak the language you are in an even weaker position
This is pretty much what I was thinking as I read Chris’ story.
Chris, with the greatest of respect but you are mostly mingling with the type of girl who is prepared to meet you for casual sex. There are millions of very respectable Thai women who who would definitely not do that.
I met a Thai over the internet. We started talking and had a good connection. we were the same age. we talked for 1 year before we decided to meet. she came to me and lived with me for 6 months. yes bought her clothes and everything she needed here. then we decided to get married. and I bought rings. we had a good relationship and got the impression she was reliable. then we decided to apply for her to move in with me. but since you have to wait with the application, she had to go home. during the time she was at home, I thought she could attend training as a hairdresser. so she can more easily get a job here.
I sent money for her apartment she rented. and she always wrote to my mother just before my mother got her pension. every monday she wrote hi how are you. and then she got some got money.
we had contact every day for more is 2 years. after she finished her education, she started working at a friend’s salon. I noticed she started to become different. got the feeling she pretended to go to bed early and we said good night. but I believed her because we built trust for 2 years. after a while she got a job at the hairdressing course.
after we talked at one point she started crying and said I don’t want to go to you. and brought up many reasons why. and said she didn’t have feelings. I said it’s understandable because we’ve been apart for 7 months. then came the next excuse and the next.
I was very surprised confused did not understand what was the real reason. just felt weird..
the next day she said i don’t have as much time to talk to you now. so it was after she finished working that we could talk. but very short and she would go to bed at 8pm because she got up at 6am. I started to suspect as I myself get up at 6 but never go to bed before 10 pm.
I looked up her phone via Google gmail find my phone. since we had a common email, I was able to search the phone. the problem was only she sees I’m looking. I didn’t think to disable that feature when she was here. would have done it now that I think about it. she was somewhere else and I was given a map of a different area than the room at work. I could also see the phone was active. so I took cars on the map and tried to call her messenger which of course she disabled when I call.
so I send the pictures to her mobile number and write honesty last, don’t you agree?
then I set off an alarm on the phone which I saw she turned off. right after, since she apparently didn’t want to answer, I wrote a long letter to the salon’s head office in Bangkok about how the situation was. I explained that she had lied to me and told me she worked illegally after closing time and took customers in for half the price that she took into her own pocket. since she showed me the money before I also said she has money in her room. I said she lied to me and lied to my family and she lied to her own family and that she is now lying to the school. I wrote about now that she has cheated us, she doesn’t have to cheat you too. in my faith in god and in your faith in buddhism, this kind of thing should not happen, that someone can make fun of others in this way.
after I sent that email to bankok. I blocked her on email Netflix and kicked her out of my Facebook. it just said smack smack smack. Her phone must have been ringing a lot that night. in the morning when she went to work she started whining via announcing that she has privacy and she wasn’t in jail. 1 hour later calls started coming from Bangkok and then she had a really bad day. she started texting me and was upset. I did not answer. but I wrote a short message and wrote you lie to me you lie to my parents and you lie to your parents and you lie to the school, but above all you lie to yourself. then I wrote you are not welcome in my life anymore and that I had to test and see how you were now I know. in my life you have no place anymore.
after 1 week, it was heard briefly that she wanted to know about the divorce. of course it is expensive to divorce in Thailand. then I asked her out and she confessed that there had been a guy in the picture but recently. I think it’s not recent but it’s been going on and for that reason she’s lost feelings or what do I know. but I think it’s incredibly full to go abroad and deceive people in other countries. I’ve never been to Thailand and I don’t know those people. but if she just lied to me I could have said okay. but cheating on my mother right before she gets her pension is incredibly immoral. of course when she got the training then she doesn’t have to go to me or was it the new guy. I still don’t know the reason. there are threads that are not tied up. maybe it will show. I want to say this gives a bad image to both me, my family, my colleagues at work and my friends who are completely ordinary people. no elderly pensioners going to Thailand. it gives a bad image and reputation of that people.
They think Thais are not to be trusted after they heard my story. that they deceive people in their own country is one thing. but going abroad and deceiving people is something else. will never set foot in Thailand and advise everyone not to go there. find other countries.
Sit, hi, you have a fair point that it’s dangerous to generalize about ‘entire races’ like saying all Irish are lucky or all Jews are stingy etc. but there are some ‘generalizations’ that I think can be drawn about certain national ‘traits’. I think Americans, generally, are arrogant (for example) due in most part by the ‘system’ that raises them to believe they really ARE the Worlds leaders etc.
I think there are generalizations that can be drawn about most nationalities – and Thais, generally, have two traits that stand out for me – one is they can be selfish (driving, parking, queuing, loud music etc.) and the other is ‘telling the truth’ mainly because they do not believe it to be very important and will happily lie to make themselves or someone else feel good ‘saving face’ is more important than truth (for Thais) and this is cultural.
I love Thailand and most Thais but it IS a challenge for farang here to adapt (and adapt we must) to this ‘different’ way of ‘being’.
One last point Sit, it is endemic in Thailand (much more than most country’s) to be very sensitive to anyone criticizing the country because you are raised NOT to criticize and have laws preventing it. Farang, and you will know this through your travels, are raised to question everything and we can say what we like about anything and can openly criticize (in the US where you have traveled the President can be openly criticized) So this is a difference too and I have occasionally had Thais get very upset when I mention something about ‘their’ country.
Thailand is a wonderful place – if our personal ‘happiness’ index does not exceed our ‘irritation’ index we should not be here! but it is fair to say that truth, here, is not valued in the same way as it is elsewhere BUT that is not to say Thailand is full of liers! just that it is not so valued here – saving ‘face’ is and so a Thai will cheerfully lie without even thinking about it 🙂
Excellent post CMG.
When Thais call white people farang or Indians khaek and say white people who don’t spend money on them are farang khee nok and stingy Indians are khee niew, they are generalizing to the extreme.
Add to that, hardly a Thai will spend money on a farang and even fewer will spend money on Indians. I often see 2 Thais ordering a meal for 1 and sharing, or carrying mama noodles with them when traveling, or eating at restaurants and not tipping.
But few Thais will say they are a stingy, racist bunch. NO. They’ll just say it’s not good to generalize about them.
Its best when you catch a Thai bird out and they reply by trying to turn the blame on you.
You have to laugh when you are told you are stupid because they have been caught out lying.
I put the lying down to the national idenity, why tell the truth and be honest when lying to a stupid Farang is easier….
Thanks for trying to understand, Chiangmai Guy. I’m not trying to insult or turn the blame on anyone. I’m not unaccustomed to seeing or hearing of bigotry in various forms in other parts of the world as well, and I do not condone such practices. There should be enough decency in all of us to accept circumstances without bashing their race, in my opinion. Having spent a couple of decades of my life on various farang countries, I’ve learnt to love and share their customs, as well as made numerous lifelong friends in the process. No matter what place they come from, no one likes to be classified negatively. I have Muslim friends who are not pleased of being called terrorists. African American friends who are offended with bad raps they get for being from a certain part of NYC. One cannot help but feel as though they are being looked at as “inferior” to the “us” because they are a “them”. Why can’t we all just get along and enjoy life? I hope my comments are not offensive to anyone. Having spent many years of my life abroad, I was not raised to not question. On the contrary, I was raised to appreciate the differences in cultures and harmonize with them and question anything I find objectionable. Just my two cents. Thanks
I completely with Chiangmaiguy. Well said.
First of all, like your site. It’s great, the ambition to pick up girls the way you do. Pimp-up work, seriously.
About the lying though, I think you have to face that maybe for that girl (and maybe others, if you keep running into it), you’re not quite measuring up – that’s what I’ve found is the most common cause for girls lying. They care about you enough to not hurt your feelings (or want to listen to the whining), but they just *have to* pretend like they’ll actually hang out.
I’m not trying to make that sound derogatory to your work, in any way. You’re still a pimp, no matter what.
Here, my detailed expose on girl brains and lying: http://two.cedonulli.com/2012/01/thai-girls-lying-cheating-stealing/
I think this topic is your record breaker so far for number of comments 🙂
Shows it must be an emotive subject.
They have a deceptive nature that is really creepy. I’m in school with a thai chic who plans to return to thailand as soon as her training and very competitive internship is complete. She is taking the place of Americans who want job training. As soon as its over , she’ll taekk the company, “I wan wok fah yooo … add giddy giggles and her sickening guttural laugh. To her friends..who supply her with all the answers to exams and homework, including illegal photos of papers written for our coursework… she will talk openly about her plans to marry when the company internship turns into a job for her brown nosing ass, and after 3 to 5 years move back to Thailand. And this training is something Obama talked about that AMERICANS need for AMERICAN jobs in his state of the union speech!
She is a back stabber and a liar. Everything she does is to guarantee herself a future. And we PAY her to take OUR places in OUR expensive Universities? Bulls.
“They have a deceptive nature that is really creepy” Very true, brilliant actors as well!
I think reason is such a sore subject is Western culture places a the highest value on truthfulness and Asian cultures (and particularly Thai) place higher value on other things like face and conflict avoidance. I think you enjoy living here more if you can adopt more of an Asian value system and play the game by local rules 😉
Johnie Walker, I have to disagree with you mostly… I think the reason this topic is so emotive as someone said, is that this is a cultural nuance that occurs at all levels of Thai society and in -nearly- all Thai women, regardless of their level of income, education or profession.
The reason it is so pervasive is for the reasons many have stated. It is a cultural that places a priority on saving face and conflict avoidance beyond truthfulness and directness.
As “good girls” would exercise appropriate Thai values even more than the women Chris has the most contact with, one can expect (and as my personal experience confirms) that they lie as commonly if not more commonly than other Thai women.
The only thing mitigating this is that if the women of whatever means or profession has significant and repeated exposure to Farangs, she may gradually realize that our values and priorities are different and begin to moderate her own values in dealing with Farang. Possibly this is more likely to occur in a professional environment where the penalty of not recognizing these differences might cost you a contract or your job… but then again, the same is true with the average bargirl and her potential sponsor.
Most of the Thai women that I know that lie less than others have had long term contact with Farang and much as we adapt a bit to their way of thinking, they have done so to ours as well…. That being said, I am never surprised to get presented with a ridiculous series of lies and I am no more or less surprised regardless of the “type” of Thai woman involved…. If she is Thai, it is hard for her to shake this… and in most circumstances within her own life, inappropriate to do so.
I married a Thai 10 years ago,had two fantastic children. But if I knew then what I know now I would have left it in Thailand.
Lie, then more lies then cards and bingo and any other type of gambling,then “ice”which must be crack? And then I threw her out.but looking back and seeing at least 5 of our Thai friends leave their husbands and go off with younger boyfriends, then you know that you have had the piss taken.
Awful race least the kids are with
Bad news Rod – hope it works out ok and sorry you had such shit to deal with. Two great kids is ample recognition that you are doing something right! and thank God she didn’t take them! good luck
Yes, I agree Thai women do lie quite a bit, but it’s easier to understand when you examine the psychology behind it. First, Thai women allow love to sport men, like Western men love to sport women. I am a male, and I see very few men here in the U.S. tell the truth when it comes to dating women. Thai women are the same way. It’s easier to hook up with Thai women, and they are female and will do their best to keep you on a string, because if they put their full faith in you, they will most likely get cheated on and lied to also. We must look in the mirror sometimes, and I have yet to meet a farang whom has not cheated on his girlfriend in Thailand, which therefore also makes him a liar. I will say this, we are much better liars than them, and they are much more accepting of our lies, as they themselves do the same thing. Just don’t keep the girl and get to attached and you will be in a win-win situation. I think the best hot spots for asian women are in the Philippines and Taipei Taiwan if you want an honest intelligent girl.
Filipinos are gorgeous and I go every year just for a change. I don’t know why everyone is so concerned with Thais lying.
Thais number one is ‘losing face’ and they could not care less if they lie or not – their moral compass is culturally different than ours so just don’t believe much of what they say and you’ll be fine 🙂
Treat them with kindess, YOU be honest and respect them – then have the time of your life dating them – that’s what I do anyway 😛
yes i often wonder why they all lie as much as they do. thai girls i mean
i think the answer could well be play them at their own game. lie twice as much as they do
In my personal experience, the fibbing is not only Thais, but other asian cultures as well. Maybe it is the “saving face” factor of their cultures. I have dated Filipino, Chinese, and Thai women, and I have caught each of them fibbing about things that do not matter. In my mind, if they are willing to fib about silly things, they definitely will fib to save face when cheating or something like that. In these cases, I just do not become emotionally attached, but still enjoy my time with them. I like them, but will not ever commit to them. If they don’t like it, then they should not have lied to me.
Very interesting reading your post and all the replies.
I was due to get engaged to my Thai girlfriend next week (In Thailand) after her visiting me in Australia for 3 months.
We met over a year ago at a resort where she worked doing massage (seemed genuine enough) and we have kept in constant touch most days. I have caught her out with a few lies and didn’t really think much of them ..but reading your forum i have seen a common trend. I’m pretty sure now i was not the only Farang she had going. Thinking back at a couple of occasions where she was obviously with her other boyfriend… she said she couldn’t be contacted for 3 weeks because she was going to an Uncles funeral in “the north” and there is no phone reception!! Funnily enough not long after that she buys an iphone!!! And more recently she tells me she is going to “the temple” for a few days..to pray etc and she can’t take her phone!! ,,I have no doubt this was with her other boyfriend.
Im wondering if any of your readers have heard these kind of stories??
phones work all over northern Thailand even in remote villages. As for the temple, most Monks have cell phones it’s not against their rules. I’d be concerned but if you are to get married once your married and she’s living with you I doubt she’s going to go off with someone else, though I would never leave her by herself. It takes years to get a Thai girl on the straight and narrow.
like the fire department says ‘get out and stay out’. Good luck Brooks but let this one go back into the pond
Yes ChangMaiGuy, im hearin ya!! So very close to making a huge mistake by getting engaged! Your website Chris (& replies)has been very informative! I spoke to this girl 2 days ago ( after visiting the temple”).. I asked where she was and she said “at home with her mum” , It was then I remembered I set up iTunes AND “find my iPhone” option on her iPhone while she was here in Oz, so I logged in… Sure enough she was calling me from the airport!!! Im guessing saying goodbye to her farang!!!Gotta love technology!!!!
wow caught red handed! What happened when you confronted her? More lies I’m guessing.
I Haven’t confronted her yet! It will be interesting i’m sure!
If it were me I’d tell her to meet me at a my place at 7pm on the dot and make sure I’ve got some hotty nakid in my bed at the same time and when she comes I’d say “I thought you were coming at 8 🙂 But hey that’s just me, dude you can’t marry this chick man! Don’t do it!
I’m still in Oz, is i was due to fly out there Wednesday, with ring in hand to propose! My conscience got the better of of me about 10 days ago and googled “thai girl lies” and found your website!! though it strange about going to “the temple” thing!! Anyway cancelled flight last week, got a refund on the ring! looking through rose coloured glasses i guess! Fate is a funny thing!
Well it’s good you found out now than later, but don’t be deterred, there are good Thai girls out there, but I’ve yet to meet one who didn’t tell me a lie. You’ve always gotta be on top of them, you being in Australia doesn’t help. May I ask how you met her?
I met her at a resort me and my friends were staying at. Let me say straight up your readers are probably thinking she’s a bar girl, I can definitely say she is not! I In her defence she has a legitimate job ( I have been to her work & I speak to her and her work friends via FaceTime/Skype every other day). But as per your many replies these girls – no matter their profession will tell lies! Don’t get me wrong, I would not take back the times we had, it’s just a damn shame! my family and friends loved her (as did i) I actually feel very sorry for her, to risk everything..knowing she would most likely get a partner visa & hava great life in Australia!! very silly girl!
Anyway, interesting how things pan out hey!
I was just curious and it’s good you let us know. As for bar girls they learn how to lie way before they become prostitutes which means that the lying as ChiangMaiGuy says is inherent to their culture.
Job doesn’t matter. I’ve had girls lie to me that were hairdressers to Bankers with law degrees.
The wierd thing is its about shit I would care if they just told. I’m a pretty open guy and can often see things from thier perspective me but these things become issues when they lie. I don’t know why. Just a class of values I guess.
Problem is Thais place NO emphasis on honesty as it’s just not important to them (it’s not emphasized in their culture or education). Saving ‘face’ is number one and they will happily lie and lie and lie with a lovely smile with no thought at all that they are… lying.
Hi, I am not being a troll here. As I am new to your blog, I am browsing and reading your posts which I think are interesting. In one of the posts about learning Thai, I noticed that you mentioned you have lived with your Thai gf for 2 years and that was how you learnt to speak Thai which wasn’t long before you wrote this post. So does it mean that you are also cheating on your long time gf by trying to meet a new woman or you broke up with her in a matter of shot time. Idk. I just noticed about it as I read your post “Thai women lie”
my long term girlfriend says it’s fine if I have other girls as long as she doesn’t know about it. If she does know about the other girl she has to be present at all times. It’s a weird relationship but it works for me 🙂
I thought I was the only one :0
Wierd at first I know. The topic of a 3some came up the other dayand she said its fine if I do with other girls in another room and as long as she doesn’t find out about it.
lol, my girl gets pissed if I do a girl without her being there.
brooks , wow thank god you came to know about her lies before you tied the knot , i feel god’s on your side ……… great your saved , i believe in karma’s and my friend you were lucky to read this blog and i am sure you will find someone who is meant for you .
Mate, you’re a butterfly, with your attitude why do you think any nice honest faithful girl would want anything to do with you? Ye reap what ye sow!
I didn’t say they didn’t want me, actually I fight them off with a stick!
Thank you for your information i have travelled to Thailand since 2007 and have experienced the bar girls to the extent where i married one and sent her home to which she asked me to take care of her financially.I decided to go over there unannouced only to find out she had a Thai boyfriend,i cut her off and finished it.I thought i would try the dating networks and met a40 yr old educated lady previously married to an english gent who died 2yrs ago, she had her own home car and we dated for a few weeks and then she asked me to go to her home town because her nephew was becoming a monk she asked me to pay the flight and could her sister come along the cost ended up being 21000baht she booked bussiness class at my expence and ended up staying in a hotel while they stayed at the family home, by this time i thought i am being taken for ride and had not been layed she asked where i was going next i told her i was going to Phuket she asked if she could go with me another 12000baht for the flight she wanted to go for an interview for a marketting job to which i ended up paying for her taxi fare 700baht i ended up laying her for 4 nights, then she spoke about marriage and wanted me to send her 10000baht each month i agreed to this when i arrived back home i told her i would only send this money after we were married well what a change from the loving person to a very aggrassive lady. the point i would like to make even the well educated and even the ones who come from a well to do families will lie and try to screw the farrang as much as they can get out of him. Chris
Well, if you were in your home country, and you took a prostitute home, and agreed to marry her, than yes, I can see where your troubles begin and end. Thailand is no exception to that rule. Women in Thailand live under rules in which lying seems to finally make ends meet. They have less value there as compared to Western Women who don’t have to lie at all, whom can be fat and call themselves beautiful, and take your every dollar if and on if you qualify for their unrealistic high expectations. Men have a hard time with Thai women, because Thai women give us a chance, where Western women don’t unless you meet a rigid series of qualifcations… rich, handsome, kind, great personality…etc. If you are realistic and find a woman who is your age, and of a higher education, than before you make one more step, I suggest hiring a private investigator while you court her. I know what your thinking.. What???? Some Thai women that come to easy, are out for your cash, and they can conceal their lies better than most, so if you Think she is special, do your self a service and follow her, if she comes up clean, you can start to build a trusting relationship. It’s not about what’s right or wrong, it’s just about admitting that you can make a tragic mistake, so protect yourself in the beginning, think of it as a Life Insurance policy, or health insurance. I know you think you should not have to do this for a true relationship, but when you get a girl who is 15 years younger, beautiful, not fat, and wants you to easily, put your ego aside, and do the math.
you sound like a gullible twat anyway pal, if you cared that much about her you wouldnt be lining up your next whore for a “lay”
no wonder she was screwing you over, you tool
I’m getting really bent out of shape about dishonesty also. I saw a girl for a few days and she told me how she wants to be a couple and see me all the time on her days off from work etc. We had plans to see each other the day after becoming a “Couple” and she just never showed up. She said she wanted to spend the 2-3 days she had vacation from work together, but where is she? Who knows. Her mobile number doesn’t work and all her two half siblings can tell me (in their limited English) is “Motha Fatha Problem.” They can’t contact her on her mobile either.
Well I still haven’t seen or heard from her since the day she convinced me to accept her as a GF. Today is theoretically the day she’s due to be back at work, so I’ll likely drop by and see what’s up if her mobile number doesn’t start working again. Based on what I’ve read the odds of a Thai Girl’s mobile going off for 3 days straight are slim to none if she’s not doing something that she shouldn’t be doing.
Assuming the she doesn’t have a DAMN fine story explaining how she disappeared for half a week after convincing me to accept a relationship with her, I’ve gotta say – the rampant dishonesty I’ve seen in this country sucks! I’ve yet to find an honest girl.
So true I used to run a “massage” shop here in Melbourne Australia, all many of my staff did and still do no doubt is still lie. The lies are normally told to extract money and favoures out of Men.
a thai girl once told me, I’m too smart to have a thai girlfriend lol. Yes they all lie and deceive you. My last thai gf lied her butt off. Saying she was single but i found out from her friend she was married. she told me she had one kid 5 years old yet milk came from her nipples lol. I found out she had a 1 year old baby. She never apologized or admitted to anything of course. She would either ignore what I said or cry and make a drama scene. She also lied about having sex with men. She was a massage girl and claimed she only gave happy endings, but sure enough she was banging dudes left and right. Bottom lie, the best way to know if a Thai girl is lying to you is that her lips are moving lol.
Good man dont take the bullshit from these thai girls.