I got a random phone call yesterday from this Chiang Mai Uni girl who I havn’t talked to for a long time asked if I was free and wanted to go have dinner together. I remember the girl good looking nice milky Chiang Mai skin so I said sure. She suggested to go have dinner at the new Korean restaurant in front of Chiang Mai University. I know the place very popular but it costs about 400 baht a head just for dinner. She had already asked if I had eaten or not and I said no but I was hungry but after she told me where she wanted to go I turned around and said that I wasn’t that hungry and noodles would just be better. You could hear her voice change and the game she’d played wasn’t going to work with me. In the end she turns around and said don’t worry about it, no skin off my nose as she wasn’t really ineresting in meeting me she was more interested in getting a free expensive meal.
See you have to know when a girl is just playing you or she is actually genuinly interested in you. A girl who really just wanted to meet you wouldn’t care too much about where you meet. I know plenty of Thai girls with money in their pockets who still enjoy the 30 baht side of the road noodles. So this girl changed her mind on meeting me because she thought I was going to buy her and probably her friend (which I’m sure she would have brought along without telling me) a free expensive meal.
I know most guys here would have just met the girl for the chance to get to know her with the hope that she might like him. But there is no point in meeting a girl who’s only intention is to basically rip you off. Like I’ve always said never and I mean never ever let a Thai girl tell you where to meet or where to go. You need to take control of situations be a man grow some balls and don’t let them push you around.
Another really popular play by Thai girls is the movies. Man I won’t take any girl to the movies unless I’ve already done her or she really was my number 1 girls. Taking a Thai girl to the movies is for chumps, honestly most Thai girls who go on a date with you and want to go to the movies is because they don’t want to pay for it themselves so they wait for some sucker to take them. I replay this by meeting up with her and say I already have the movie at home let’s go watch it there. I download the movie from graboid and since there is no sub titles in Thai she’ll get super bored and end up doing me before the movie is over. I can watch the movie again later when she’s gone.
I prefer to meet Thai girls at the club unless I’m playing a super hot girl whom I’m happy to take her to the club with a friend of hers provided I got a good wingman to go along too. There are heaps of girls that will play you for a free night out and you can know when she is going to play you when she asks you to go out. When a Thai girl asks you to go to the club she’s trying to play you, when you ask her you’re playing her. What I do here is if a girl I know asks me to go to the club I ask her where she wants to go and what time I never and I mean never pick her up she must make her own way there and I will rock up about 2 hours before the place closes. It’s not about being cheap is about replaying her play.
It’s not about being cheap at all it’s about being smart not with your money but with your time. I’m not going to waste 2 hours of my life sitting at a Korean restaurant with a girl who isn’t really into me in the beginning, I can make her into me without having to do that and without wasting 2 hours of my life. Playing it smarter and having the balls to say NO i’m not getting suckered into that is how you don’t get played in Thailand.
I’d love to hear how other people have got played in Thailand let me know in the comments.
You have a player brain, good thing for the rest of chump-world that you chose to share.
By default I answer any questions of ‘did you eat yet’ with ‘yes’, like a reflex, after having fallen for the dinner with girl-plus-her-two-fat friends when I first came to Thailand.
I fell for the movie ploy, too. Now it is only movies at my place. Great idea about the no subtitles.
In my opinion, the reality is the girls need greater incentives to be with us as they become more jaded/financially sound. More than just a meal/movie ticket. They are learning to prostitute their pussies for greater amounts. My cock is free to everyone all the time but it does not work like this for the girls as they have realized early on the value of their pussies.
It’s nice when you stumble upon one who hasn’t priced her pussy yet and gives it away free.
This is why guys are heading to poorer countries like Philippines where you do get the happy start *and* ending. They can’t afford to let a good opportunity pass them by. They aren’t in a position to be jaded (yet) due to low tourist numbers. Not everyone can price her pussy.
The secret: Concert and flight tickets! Makes them eating out of your hand because those costs are just out of their reach (for now). Unfortunately, in true Thai style, you deliver her the news that something got bungled up before the departure/concert date with the online booking system and/or your credit card and they swallow it because they feed us that same BS too whenever their lips are moving. This is truly “playing the player.”
Back to noodles? she probably would not even get those! (just kidding) 😛
Well I got chewed out for not buying noodles now when I offer them they don’t want them. I think like what Jake said I need a noodle buying flow chart.
“But there is no point in meeting a girl who’s only intention is to basically rip you off”. Isn’t that what they are destined to do when all these western chumps come over or when the girls here see western sap movies written by experts in making men chumps?
So, I am confused. Tell me what happened here. I met a girl at her work. We ended up meeting up after her work with the idea of going to a major club. I meet her at her work and she has a friend with her which isn’t as good look (smart girl to bring someone not as pretty) but still “ok” by western standards ;). We go to the club and we drink and dance for like 2 or 3 hours. The bill was almost 1k baht. I fondled the other girl while dancing and she returned the favor. After a while I suggested we go and I just took us all back to my room. I didn’t ask. We get to my room and I show them where the towels were and told them to share one because I only had two and the other was for me. The original girl said, ” what we do?” with her friend intently listening. I said, “you and farang before…?” moving my head to look at the bed. She said, “no” almost with a stunned look. I said, “ok, good for you.” She smiled but still maintained her confused look. I then handed her the towel. They didn’t shower together and so her friend stayed in the room with me and I messed around with her a bit. Long story short, if asked that same question again, now they’d both have to say yes. I gave her friend some taxi money in the AM, well, after some funny business in the “bat-loom we no wake up she.”. The original girl called in sick that day and we had fun at the beach.
So, sure, I spent almost 2k for eats, club, taxi, taxi for girl to go home, beach, more eats with girl #1, etc.
I told my friend this story. He was with me when I met her and he has lived in LOS for years. He was shocked it was “so easy” but then again he is married.
I just never asked. I just expected it. I wasn’t pushy. I just never asked permission like a western chump.
Now, if I could just swing that situation with the “Chris Method”, of not even buying them noodles.
That same thing has happened to me more than a dozen times, though typically i’m in bed taking turns with them. You are right you just have to do what I call leading them, Thai’s are like sheep and if you lead them they follow. The thing I’m getting at in the article is to spot the girls who are really playing you, you can’t lead every girl the same way and you have to spot the chicks early before you get ripped.
I guess I don’t go for the super hot, tall, white northern girls so I haven’t been outright scammed. I have had girls stay with me and when their buffalo falls and dies on their brother’s scooter and I don’t have any money they usually move along because I am mai dee. I have had girls invite their sister or friend with us to a cheap dinner but there is going to be some shagging going on.
Most of the scams IMHO were with Thai friends, tuk tuks, taxi’s, etc. I guess the girls I have been seeing are not schooled yet.
Hang on… you guys sounds like real cheapo’s – so you expect sex with stunning girls (girl’s you would never get back in ‘farangland’) for free all the time? and you are worried about spending 1,000 ($30) or even, wow, 2,000 ($60) for TWO girls?and now you are trying to figure out how to ‘get them’ with buying ‘noodles’?
Don’t get this wrong I love girls – but all this ‘let’s try and trick them with giving them nothing’ is starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth.
These are HUMAN BEINGS not toys – yes they are ‘fair game’ but be NICE don’t moan and grown about they ‘scammed you’ because you paid 1,000 baht for a good night out followed by sex.
I don’t know about the other guys but for me at least the girls I had back in the states had better bodies than most Thai girls I’ve met here, girls there are fit girls here are just skinny.
It’s not about being cheap it’s about not getting played and playing them before they play you. I know so many guys go on dates and take girls out where I know full well they arn’t even into the guy, they are just doing it for the freebies. I don’t mind spending good money on girls who deserve it and in fact the girls I would spend money on I don’t even expect anything. But there are times I don’t pay for crap and wouldn’t want to anyway.
Gaming girls isn’t about the money it’s about the sport and seeing what you can get away with so I don’t concider it being cheap. Although there are a lot of cheap guys in Chiang Mai. Hey mate when you free for that beer call me!
PS I dont like skinny girls and quite like them chubbier 😛
ChiangMaiGuy….Your icon is a picture of a Khmer lady.. not Thai.
and…? yours is of a blue box with a green tail. I hunt all over Asia not just Thailand… nice pic right?
this wasn’t aimed at you dude but I do feel that the girls ‘deserve’ a good time too – and I will never allow myself to be ‘played’ and think I have a fair bit of experience – but it’s an ‘exchange’ and I have no problem letting them think they are a little bit ‘special’ on occasion and if they look like that girl in the photo dinner is on me!!! they may think sometimes they ARE playing me – but they are wrrrrrrong 😛 but I’m also not in the game of trying to get away with as little as possible – so we differ there – anyway not important ‘mai pben rai’.
I thought you weren’t drinking which is why I didn’t contact you – let me know when your around – I can pop up to your ‘local’ sometime? cheers
Dude – if any fool pays for there girl’s friends dinner or drinks WITHOUT first agreeing to it then yes they are being stupid and played. It doesn’t happen to me – whether that’s because they can ‘sense’ I know what I’m doing and live here I don’t know – but they don’t even attempt it. IF I agree beforehand, for the first date, they bring a friend then that’s fine (and I must be pretty horny to agree and HAVE to have them). I rarely get asked. Act like a victim and you will BE a victim.
PS riverside/good view are not expensive dude and 400 baht is 13 dollars try that in London or New York
I didn’t think of spending $4-$500 a night out in the OC butI realise these days it’s just stupid to spend that much money.
yes I know – me too – but we forget just how much 400 baht is in ‘farangland’ money because it sounds a lot. If I have to spend 400 baht or even double that to screw a gorgeous young girl I do it not moan about it – money well spent but then I’m older than you 😛
Sure is, especially on somebody who is not a genuine friend.
Besides, only tourists compare local prices with prices elsewhere. Living in CM, It doesn’t matter to me what the price of X is in London or Dubai any more than it matters to me whether it’s raining in Paris today or not.
It’s just about the money but the time I waste so I’ve learned to spot them early since I meet up with upwards of girls a month.
I gave up drinking, lasted about 48 hours but hey i’m free every night this week so give me a buzz still wanna question you with some business ideas.
ok dude can you email your number again and we can agree where and when
you hit the nail!lol! you seem like a nice guy.
people should be respectful to women. it shows your good upbringing.thanks for your support.you got a new fan.
Yeah, I’ve been in some situations where the girl says, “Oh, let’s go to so-and-so place.” And, with having some experience in say, Chiang Mai, for example, where there are more touristy, over-priced places (like Riverside & Goodview bar/restaurants), it’s a quick decision to opt out, take the lead, and go somewhere else. I’ve been played before with a girl bringing her friend and 400 baht later for two drinks and appetizers, everyone just goes back home afterwards and I was left frustrated…
This one girl I knew even for two years said she only had like 45 minutes to meet (supposedly just her and I), had me follow her to some music/bar place, already had her friend there at a table, drinks flowing, 3 beers and glasses on the table…I told her I had to meet with friends and split… The Thai girls will try to get away with whatever they can. Although, there are some girls that don’t want anything and are just really good girls. I have known a few and one that I’m still in touch with that does not drink, usually. We go out for a simple Thai meal (about 100 baht for both of us) and have dessert before and after dinner. It’s best if there’s a real connection and genuine interest. And, it’s ultimately best when it’s NOT about the money…
why has my reply to Adam attached itself to my other reply? they are unrelated 🙂
This is one of the best posts here! Really great tips and tricks. This is the right state of mind of a true player. You ain’t no player if you get played by a girl! makes sense right?
Keep up with this fantastic blog Chris!
thanks bro
To hell with her.. she needs to know English anyway. If she doesn’t, it’s a pretty good indication of her “class” or education level (the old Thai class system is still very much in existence today). Those Thai subtitles aren’t even correct translations 50% of the time. If she doesn’t have money to pay for herself, or doesn’t ever offer to pay for you she’s not even worth the trouble of considering (unless you’re just out to have fun). Good move!
So what about those of us who normally eat at upscale places even when alone? Do we downgrade to noodles because we are on a date? 😉 The bigger problem with letting the girl pick the meeting places is it may not be convenient to get to (Bangkok is big) or too much traffic etc. First time at least you want to be able to get her back to your place quickly and naturally. If you are stuck in traffic for an hour it gives her too much time to think, and for the romantic feeling (or alcohol 555) to wear off.
After so many questions about noodles and Jakes suggestion about the flowchart I will have to have a Noodles post soon as even I’m starting to get confused. If all else fails i guess invite her to your place for noodles 😉
I’ve definitely met some of each type here. Always sad to see a girl turn ice cold when you don’t flip the tab in full – especially when you pegged her as genuine.
Anyone interested in day-game (and maybe night-game too) at Bangkok with a veteran? Reply and I’ll get you my e-mail address.
Yeah, from about September onwards when I move back
“Anyone interested in day-game (and maybe night-game too) at Bangkok with a veteran? Reply and I’ll get you my e-mail address.”
I’ll be in for that mate…always something new to learn & new people to meet 🙂
I made a new email address just so I could post it here.
Contact me @ [email protected] and we’ll try some day game at bangkok
Night-game is not a problem for me, it;s the day-game, or should I say, the lack of it. As you might have noticed, Thai girls are very conservative compared to western girls. How can one succesfully integrate ”game” into the day-time?
I’m sure a lot fo players in Thailand are having the same question like this. Maybe you have had already covered this in one of your posts and I missed it. If not, maybe it is an idea for a future post?
I must admit I am holding back on a lot of stuff especially on day game perhaps for a future book, getting a Thai girl into bed the day you met her during the day is harder than western girls by far but I do it all the time. In fact especially in Thailand it’s easier to meet random girls during the day than it is in the evening and I’m talking about decent girls not working girls or slags that go to farang clubs. I suggest in the meantime you try your hand at the Thai dating sites meet during the day and use the 3 hour rule.
The day bits have me stumped. My Thai still sucks though, so could easily be the language barrier.
Then again, a quick trip to Cambodia has me all spoiled by the crazy cheap prices and the fact that girls speak English. So I might just take off and spend some time there.
By day-game I meant afternoon and early evening, with no bars or alcohol involved. IE: cold approaches in parks and malls, spending some time together, then going home – or at least coordinating a second day together when you’ll go home.
There’s a lot of tactic involved here, but I’m pretty good at it. I just find it way easier to keep my energy going if I’m rolling with someone.
Anyway I live near Lumphini park. I’m a clean-cut american in late 20s. My approach comes off humorous, innocent, and clever but with alpha characteristics. Datebayo or Chris or anyone else, lets meet and exchange ideas, then get started.
Lol… if you in late 20s you dont need so much “game” here just need a pulse 😉 It is us guys in late 30s or older that need to work for it. Anyways, I am in Bkk and happy to chat, but dont want to put my email here in public place.
If your registered on the forum you can instant message people.
Day game maybe the best way to get the hot white skin (thai-style) girls. Most of them have a thai bf already, so at night they stay home or hang out with their bf, but during the day they maybe alone and willing to play 😉
The main secret I think is just numbers, just as online you have to contact 10-20 girls to get one date, you have to approach lots of girls daytime, it should become a habit. However any tips from ajarn Chris would be appreciated too 😉
If you need help with online game let me know. If you’re a white guy in Thailand and know how to make the right kind of profile (the most important part), every girl you communicate with should be an 8 ball in the corner pocket.
quality girls aren’t as easy dude, I know some of the girls you’ve tried to pick up 😉
😛
It all feels the same bro. And in my experience, the better looking they are, the worse of a lay they are. It’s rare to find a Thai stunner that is a hell cat in bed.
well you guy’s you must admit we have all be played at some time, but i learned fast only twice, then just payed the game i met this lady in Chiang Mai very well off her and her sister had business in shipping good’s all over the world one night they said we will go eat out , ok no problem we sat down and more and more people turned up at the end of the evening ask for bill, they presented it to me 12,000bt i looked at them laughed then stood up and walked away if you could have seen the face’s. never to meet them again thank god
Terry, to be fair, this is more a ‘newbie’ thing – I don’t experience this at all and I live here but it is endemic in Thai culture that the man ‘pays’. But 12,000 and tons of friends coming is outrageous! and a piss take – you did the right thing.
I would like to add a little ‘balance’ as sometimes it’s not always that they want to ‘play’ you. Often they want to ‘show’ you to their friends – this is weird from a farang point of view but I don’t think it’s fair that we assume all such encounters are ‘playing us’ although I completely understand the feeling.
Yep, met a chick and she brought her friend uninvited. They ordered shit and barely touched it.Not expensive,but was pissed off as I wanted 1-on-1 and was round the corner from my place. Next day meet her in mall…..”Oh look the movies !” she says…no chance, not yet anyway till I get a better handle on her. Next day on web chat when she is “out of town” (can I even believe that ?) I basically draw it out her that she wants a FOB walking ATM to bankroll her friends’ beer nights more or less. Bye-bye baby….also had a biiiiiiiiiig tat on her back and was a couple of years older than her CM uni level….oh well, will never know the full story on her. Who cares,though she was an HB 8 or so ! Pity.
Every day is groundhog day, and it will be a tighter game next time round.It’s my rules all the way and if a friend shows up with my “date” unannounced, one of us is walking.
I can’t date girls with tats, for a girl to get a tat in Thailand she’s been hanging around the wrong crowd some guys like that that’s cool but not my style I’ll do them but won’t date them.
Yep, she was only going to be short-term when I saw the tat.
I just saw you grew up in Australia.
My girl is pretty cool. She’s smart and comes from a good family. Never ever has asked me for money. I met her online. She’s a food scientist and I don’t believe she has ever been a prostitute. lol But now we’ve been together since March. Now she is starting to talk to me about the M word. Any suggestions on how to avoid this? I really don’t want to get legally married EVER. I think it’s the most ridiculous thing for a man to do. Unless the women is Donald Trumps daughter or Paris Hilton why would I want to give up half my shit? She wants me to meet her family which I painfully avoided last month. What can I do?
Tell her you want to get married, but late next year (like november or something cus it has a special meaning for you). If she sticks with you, you can always postpone it again. She’s testing you, so test her.
Sometimes it’s just easier to pay for the services of a hooker, and all expats should have a few good ones already in their phone. My time is worth money and I don’t have time to waste playing games. They are either down or they are not. No games. There are too many girls to choose from to sweat one of them.
Hey Chris
It’s really great to listening to all you guys experiences.
This you’ll probably find very boring
I’m coming to Thailand to meet a few ladies I’ve met on Thai Friendly….I’m 65..and looking for a sincere nice Thai partner to live and travel with.
I’m chatting with girls who are 38 to 45…How do I know if there for real and not just playing me…
Thanks
Hard to say, are you being honest about what you’re looking for?
This is for Cbenntt47…hang in there…it’s a numbers game and you have to keep at
it…”there’s gold in them thar hills”…be patient and you’ll find some good ones…in the
meantime, you can enjoy the hot sluts…