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Are Bar Fines out of control?

I understand inflation, and I know that it’s not as easy to make money in the game anymore due to exploding property prices and higher rent prices, everything seems to be going up. But the extortionate fees some Go Go bars are asking for makes me wonder how much further can they go?

If you’re a punter coming to Thailand better pack some dosh because it’s not as cheap as you think. Standard Nana Go Go bar these days on an average night is 600 baht with most bars anticipating a medium price of 700 baht bar fine across all bars this year. You’ll find the same prices on Walking street in Pattaya about the same prices with some show girls costing a minimum 1000 baht fine just to get her out!

The startling thing about this trend is it’s getting even harder to convince these girls to go with you. Can you imagine, there are many guys begging to take these girls out. With the advent of Facebook idolising bar girls is making it easier for the big spenders to seek out the best goods leaving normal guys the dregs. Add that to the fact that many bar owners these days hire good looking coyote girls that don’t even want to go out in the first place since they make 20k dancing on the pole.

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The game used to be much simpler, I have money you look good lets go. These days it’s more like I have a lot of money let’s have a good time or I have a little money so please pretty please can we go so you can lay there like a star fish. It’s getting more complicated to find a good looking Thai whore these days. Many times it’s simply cheaper and easier to find a nice Uni girl off a dating site like Thai Love Web than it is to dodge the skyrocketing bar fines and under performing Go Go girls.

It’s not IF the average Bar fine will be 1,000 baht it’s simply a matter of WHEN. Will it stop there? How much are people really happy to pay for a bar fine. I still know of a quite a few beer bars in Pattaya that still have 200 baht bar fines but they are of a different class and clientele. Personally If i’m going to go out of my way to get a shag then i’m paying for the best I can find and if that means 1000 baht bar fine then so be it. But that’s gotta be the end of it. More than that is simply not worth the money.

To take a girl out of the Gentlemen’s clubs in Bangkok it’s typically 10 drinks (if the girl agrees to go and this is before her fee). On weekends and public holidays the clubs usually ask for 15 drinks. This is standard practice at the Pent or Pimp this would typically cost a minimum of minimum 3500 baht.

What is the difference in paying 3500 baht for a Coyote or 1000 baht for a Go Go girl? Not much! Except the Coyote from the Pimp is going to shit all over the Go Go girl in terms of looks and more likely in action. G Club girls are wild party animals and are less country than their Country Go Go girl counterparts.

What prices have you paid lately? Do you think Bar Fine prices are monopolized? Are prices getting to high or are they still reasonable?


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Chris founded Living Thai and author of the books Learn the The Thai Alphabet and How to make money in Thailand also the Blueprint for Living in Thailand. Chris started this blog with the aim of educating westerners on how to have the best time in Thailand, to make new friends and to vent his frustrations Chris is also fluent in both written and spoken Thai.

23 Responses to Are Bar Fines out of control?

  1. Bren January 19, 2014 at 9:20 am #

    Gentlemens Club in Pattaya which is a middle tier gogo not a GC wanted 1500฿ at 2:30 in the morning. And that’s just the BF. The girl was nice looking but not one of their best. No wonder so many guys head to the discos.

  2. jack January 19, 2014 at 7:30 pm #

    True that Bren, go to a normal bar the choice of freelancer or civilian. An inexperienced freelancer might only ask for 300baht or civi free. Much cheaper, no harrasssment from staff or extortion for drinks.

  3. ST January 19, 2014 at 8:39 pm #

    700b? That’s expensive? Really? snort snort……they havn’t caught up with Billboard NEP in Bangkok.

    2000b. No, not ST price. I verified. Just the BF. Stay away.

    • ST January 19, 2014 at 8:52 pm #

      OK, I need to add that it was 600b the night before. When they saw me crawl back the next night for that fetching thing, it became 2000b.

      Stay away all the same.

    • Chris January 20, 2014 at 7:10 am #

      I’ve seen places in Pattaya like that also, worth it? I’m undecided.

  4. mguy January 20, 2014 at 1:09 am #

    Makes more sense at these prices to put some real effort into meeting relatively normal Thai women outside the bars.

    Thailand ain’t cheap anymore (not comparing it to price of hookers in the west either because that sure as hell isn’t worth it).

  5. JIm January 27, 2014 at 3:16 pm #

    Hi Chris,

    You have an interesting, relative site. I’ve moved here 5 months ago but I’ve been a regular for
    about 8 years and I’ve seen a lot of change. On a couple of occasions in these past 5 months I’ve bought drinks and partied only to find the bf was 4000thb. At Dundee’s soi Cowbiy that’s flat rate unless it’s a coyote. It’s bullshit and I’m not paying. Too many other options.

    1000 Thb bf? No way! Unless she’s hot and I’m drunk “must have” of course;)

    JIm

    • Chris January 27, 2014 at 4:33 pm #

      Thanks for reading and your update will be read by many help make them decide. The prices is getting a bit of a joke.

  6. santa January 29, 2014 at 11:42 am #

    Have just returned home from patong beach and they have got in on the act. Beer bar in quite soi, bf 500 and the girl cannot leave bar before 2am. Some beer bars in Bangla lady drinks 200 and 2000 bf. when asked why prices are so high ( in both bars) I was told that they put up prices because they weren’t making enough money.

    • Chris January 29, 2014 at 10:59 pm #

      Thanks for the report, not making enough money? I don’t know whether to believe that or not.

  7. Stefan February 16, 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    Bar Fines have reached 1,000 THB now.

    I just came back from a weekend trip to Pattaya and as I had a drink in “Show Girls” in LK Metro Alley I asked for the bar fine more because I was curious and she said it’s 1,000 THB. I was like are you serious normally it’s about 700, she said yes, from during the first two hours its 1,000 THB then at 10pm it drops to 800 THB and then at midnight it drops again to 600 THB. Interesting new way to charge more for the beautiful girls as they are obviously taken out first.

    The bar fine at most go gos on Walking Street is still at 700 THB including Baccara, however the girls have steeper rates, standard is 2,500 THB for short time and 5,000 THB for long time.

    • Chris February 16, 2014 at 12:53 pm #

      Thanks for the update Stefan!

      • mike February 25, 2014 at 3:57 am #

        the boss of the gentlemens club told me the bf range is 800 to 2000!,
        a cola light and a lady drink cost me 300 the girl wanted 2000st I left.
        after lots of vodka found a well rounded cute 19yo in Tims of all places
        on second road,1000bf,2000st,1000drinks,500 for pool and drinks,
        spent at least a 1000 drinking before ,add in 2000 a night hotel then
        eating bits andbobs laundry etc its getting on for 10,000 a day
        half is for a short time with a gogo girl,might tey a soapy.

  8. git July 28, 2014 at 1:31 am #

    only fools and the inexperienced will pay such prices, ok the gogo’s will still get hi rollers who have money to burn but in what numbers? That hi roller will take a girl or two yes, but what about the rest, they and Pattaya will price themselves out of the market, as

    experienced punters who want value for money will avoid such places, instead like me they will go hunting out attractive girls in massage parlours and ‘ordinary’ beer bars who will be very grateful to come back to your room later for 1000 st and 1000 to 2000 LT, also the many freelancers at discos and generally just walking about,

    2500 for ST FFS, ridiculous, the same girl will go 1000 ST in a disco
    is it any wonder its low season all year now?

    • Chris July 28, 2014 at 2:52 am #

      Attractive girls in beer bars and massage parlors? the showgirls, the ones worth 2500 for ST are rarely, rarely dude found in beer bars and rub and tug shops. If you have a great body and attractive why the hell would you work in a beer bar? So guys can come and have their way for 1000 baht. Thanks for the comment mate but please think about it!

      • Smith September 9, 2014 at 4:28 am #

        Agreed. I have rarely ever (I think that should be “never”) seen any girls I would be interested in at any of the beer bars or massage parlors. All the nice girls are in the go go bars – at least as far as Pattaya and Bkk are concerned. It is virtually impossible to find a nice looking free lancer. I would imagine that people who only go with the cheap girls like those from beer bars, massage parlors and freelancers just do not realize how hot/ cute some of the go go girls are!

        To find a girl who is hot, a good lay and less than 2000bt st is quite hard but is possible. I see some of the go go girls who get barfined and I would not touch them… some of them look no better than beerbar girls or freelancers. If people are happy with the 1000bt girls then so be it. I find I have to go to about 5 different go go clubs before I can find a girl who is good enough. The vast majority I would not consider. I still find quite a few that will accept 1500 st. Even that requires a bit of playing around, for example, letting her believe that you will go with someone else if she asks for too much.

    • Smith September 9, 2014 at 4:46 am #

      I have seen this kind of thing before by other people. It has nothing to do with fools or ugliness or anything like that at all. I wont pay 2500 st because I know that there is no need to. I will, however, pay 2000bt ST because that is sometimes required and I have several years of experience. It is all to do with who YOU consider “hot”. I have seen girls who I could understand as being perceived as being “hot” by others. I do not find them hot, it is as simple as that. I have paid as low as 500bt but they are never as good. You can still get freelancers in pattaya for 600bt… they may be hot by someone’s standards, but not mine. There is an extremely small minority of girls that I am interested in. That makes 1000bt ST almost utterly impossible. I say “almost” because I have found the odd couple of girls in the go go bars off beach road who seem ok and will do 1000bt ST and 2000bt LT. They seem to be the exception but they are quite rare and often I will find that all of those bars are no good.

  9. git July 31, 2014 at 1:33 am #

    ive done more than think about it, ive been there and done it, for the last 10 years.

    many tourists wont put a bit of shoe leather on the ground to look around. on my last visit i had 3 mparlor girls that would have made very decent gogo girls, fantastic value for money, there’s any number of bars that will harbour hidden gems, not to mention freelancers, on my last visit dec 2013, there was a girl walking about 30 yards in front of me on soi diana, i noticed guys were gawping at her, i quickly walked up beside her and kaboom, stunning, voluptuous girl who could have been worthy of any gogo,
    i smiled said how are you, got her number and the next night, had LT 1500

    Then there’s the Kinerre club in Pratmanuck, some stunning girls, ST 1000 + 300 Room +drink, the lady i had there was the equal of any of the showgirls i have had.

    i had some lovely girls on soi 6 to, = to 6-7 standard gogos, in fact when i did a couple of gogo tours on my last trip, the standard was disappointing.

    ive had my share of top gogo showgirls in the past, but most of them are simply not worth the trouble, to much attitude.
    the way to go is do some research and get out there, plenty of beauties to be found.

  10. Steve August 25, 2014 at 6:16 pm #

    Hi,

    I’m in Pattaya right now, and I’m really disappointed, I was here later november and it was easy to get girls everywhere, they seemed to outnumber guys 10 to 1, now I think all the decent giels have gone home to isaan.

    Several times I have gone out looking to get LT with money and come back empty handed, as the girl werent interested in leaving the bars.

    The normal thai girls wont give me a second look, like they are too good for me, I came to pattaya as a single guy looking to get a bit of company from women but its been the opposite.

    I am so disappointed I feel like giving up staying in my apartment and using porn and my hand, cheaper and less stressful.

  11. Smith September 9, 2014 at 4:06 am #

    As far as Bangkok is concerned there are a few bars that have the stupid barfines. I am not sure when Shark and Lighthouse (soi cowboy) joined the stupid crowd but their barfines are now 1500b. I always ask at the door what the barfine is before I enter now. It saves wasting money in their bars. It is maybe unlikely that these assholes will go out of business like they deserve but at least they won’t be getting any money from me. I guess there will be wankers who keep them in business but I will not humor them.

    I think the other one in soi cowboy is “Cocktail” near rawhide (2000bt barfine). It seems empty most of the time. Much of Soi cowboy was ruined not long ago by that idiot Iranian. He destroyed about 5 or 6 bars I think. I would not even consider going in any of his now. Somehow Rawhide survived and I thought it was going to go the way of the Iranian bars. I actually thought he owned it now but maybe it never happened. Rawhide is a bit empty but at least it is not Iranianized. It was one of the best bars unfortunately but is somewhat sparse.

    Most bars still seem to be in the 600 – 700 baht range barfine. The only stupid barfine place I can think of in Nana is that one on the top floor – “Wild thing” or something like that. It is a shithole still like it always was but for some reason they have a ridiculous barfine (2000bt). I had not checked what the barfine was before I entered so unfortunately they got some money from me for 1 drink. I cannot see how they can survive because it is normally empty of customers (and deserves to be).

    • git September 16, 2014 at 11:25 pm #

      Mr Smith
      must admit tjats a smart move asking what the bf is before entry, i will remember that
      as im going to Pattaya next week for 2 weeks of fun, so ill update my view of the scene in due course
      thanks

  12. fransamsterdam October 31, 2014 at 7:13 pm #

    Even many girls in beerbars ask 3KB for LT.
    I found two lovely girls in Soi Buakhao, one in Jum Bar in Boom Boom Entertainment (formerly named Blue Rahtree) complex and one in Lucky Star Bar, at the entrance of that complex (where Rehab Agogo was). Not a very crowded place, but worth a visit. Take a motorbiketaxi. Both girls 300B barfine, both asked 1500 for LT. One dropped her price immediately to 1KB when I suggested to have a look around…
    Good girls, 20 and 25, could both also have worked in a Agogo. One actually had.
    Barfined them both twice.
    I payed 700BF + 3000KB LT (flatrate!) for girl in Papagayo, Soi Diana Inn.
    Not cheap, but was definitely worth the money.
    Once I BF a girl, leave asap and continue at a bar of your own choice.
    Before BF be sure that girl has no problem with the specific exercises you have in mind.
    It helps to avoid disappointing nights.
    Don’t be shy!

  13. Somebody November 13, 2014 at 9:23 pm #

    At least as far as Patong is concerned, bar fines are 1,500 Baht in the bars at the front of the new Tiger bar complex from early evening until 1.00 am when they drop to 1,000 Baht. Bars at the back of the bar complex remain the same at 1,000 Baht regardless of the time of night.

    Most girls will only go with you after 1.00 am because then they get a 50% share of the bar fine instead of the usual 30%. If she is willing to go with you before 1.00 am, it’s either because she likes you, or because you’re a handsome young man.

    When it comes to age, it depends on how old the punter is. 20-30 yrs old and you can take your pick and pay almost next to nothing. 30-40 yrs old and provided you’re willing to buy her at least five lady drinks at 200-220 Baht a throw and you’re not fat and ugly, she’ll go with you LT for around 3k. 45-55 yrs old and you’re competing with the young ones no matter how much cash you have to chuck around. Expect to pay 4k for LT and even then, you might struggle to get a good looking chick. 60+ and you’re really in trouble even if you’re willing to pay handsomely for your pound of flesh. LT is generally out of the question and your 4-5K will only get you ST and half of that will be spent taking a shower. To get around the latter problem, you’ll have to spend time getting to know someone.

    My advice to older guys (like myself) is to reconnoitre the bars and find one where there are a few reasonably good looking chicks. Go spend some time there just chatting and getting to know whoever you’re interested in. Maybe you’ll come way empty handed the first night, but on your second visit, you’ll be surprised how much more relaxed the girl will be. Breaking down those initial barriers is an important step in getting into her knickers without it costing you a small fortune. If you like her, take her shopping the next day. For that, you’ll need her phone number. Once you have that, you can call her any time during the day and avoid bar fines altogether. She’ll be more than happy to go with you since by buying her something, you’ll have already demonstrated you’re a generous guy.

    Doing it this way also pays off for your next trip since you won’t have to bother going through the same old rigmarole all over again and can simply call her before you arrive. It’s the way I do things anyway and it works for me.

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