The dinner date scam is the easiest scam there is for girls to pull off and I admittedly got scammed this way the other month. What happens is you meet a girl normally or through the internet you talk to her and she seems interested so you ask her out on a date. You know that Thai girls don’t have much money to their name and since you invited her out you’re more than obliged to pay for her unless you’ve otherwise talked about sharing the cost.
The problem arises and so does the scam when you find yourself in a situation where the girl is taking advantage of your generosity. For some girls this is the whole plan from the beginning which is basically to get you to pay for alcohol, drugs, food and the scam is she isn’t even remotely interested in you using your ass like a walking ATM machine she can push buttons on and get you to crap thousand baht bills.
Most of these girls don’t work alone, they have accomplices and that’s how the scam can get really expensive. Sometimes their friends don’t even realize that there is a scam going on they are just happy to come out and have a good time on your dime. I can’t stand these kinds of girls and they are less than scum in my mind, at least even a hooker has something worth trading. These dinner hookers are just scum.
How I got scammed and then got her back
So I met this girl on the internet about a month ago on one of these cheap ass dating sites (another reason I don’t recommend free dating sites in Thailand). She’s 18 and starting school in the coming month. I’m normally a good judge of character and said sure I’ll meet her, I told her to meet somewhere and she said no come to see her, I suggested something else and she said no come to see her. I never like it when a girl does this and as I’ve said somewhere before this is a sure sign of a scam when they don’t follow you.
So against my better judgement I go meet her at some Shi Sha joint in South Pattaya, when I rock up I meet her, her younger cousin and Aunt. I order a beer and they were already sitting there with drinks smoking that crap. After an hour passes and this girl seems completely not interested I say I’m going to go and get the bill. Well the bill comes 650 baht and it’s my 2 beers their Shi Sha and drinks. I think about making a scene and instead turn decide to just bow out and say I got done, lesson learned.
Well I’m on the internet a day ago and this same girl messages me and we’re talking and stuff and since I still left on good terms I thought she was kinda genuine and decide to tell her to go to dinner with only me. She agrees and we’re to meet at a pork place across from Hollywood.
She is 45minutes late when I’m about to leave, I’m literally on my bike when she rocks up and has her cousin with her. I’m really annoyed at this time and just want to speed off I’ve done it many times before but you know what I’m done I’m going to give her a taste of her own medicine, this after she tells me on the phone she was late because she was dropping off her friend when in reality she was picking her up.
So we sit down and she’s trying to order that Shi Sha crap again “here we go again”. But this time it’s no problem because I have no intention of paying! Sitting there she is as cold as she was the last time I met her and they are laughing because they think they got away with scamming me again, seriously you had to have been there they were laughing at the fact that she brought this other girl and their intention was just to have dinner.
Whatever because I’m going to get them back. I know the fat cousin can’t eat prawns so i go up and change the menu to mostly prawns, they think there is a problem when the food arrives but so I tell them what I did. They don’t seem to laugh at this now.
After I gobble down 3 plates of prawns two large Leo’s and a few bowls of soup I tell them that I’m going to get my camera out of my bike. Instead I get on and leave the scene, the girls only have a few hundred baht on them each but I’m more than sure there is an ATM card with some more, I mean they eat for free every single day but I only got one free dinner. So did they end up having to pay? I’m sure they did, someone had to pay and since someone has paid now it’s not my problem anymore.
Now that I scammed the scammers there will probably be a bunch of people who think I’m the asshole so yeah let me know in the comments I love reading that shit. Truth is these girls are working guys all the time and I’m not going to be all riotous and feel sorry for them. Pattaya is no place to be good willed and caring or you’ll just get stepped on.
Yup. Totally the way to go. The rodents must be squashed!
Happened to me a few weeks ago. Cute girl on dating site, claims to be 42 kilos (close to my max). When I meet her, she’s probably 10 kilo over the advertised range, and some ugly friend is with her. I can just see the “here is the ATM for the night look in their eyes”.
I had told her we’ll get some Thai tea, and I’m mentioning it again as we walk. Of course, instead they head into the restaurant with bar to eat on my dime.
They went on a giant ordering spree. I just ordered a coke, wasn’t hungry anyway. Once all the food arrived and they were just chatting with each other the whole time in Thai, I told them I’m going to the bathroom, and took off.
I’ve had really good luck with the ‘free’ dating sites. I’d try the others but at 20+ messages a day, it’s already more than I can handle. Still, occasionally, these little bitches slip through in under the radar.
My favorite is just have a date ‘in the park’. And movies at my house after.
I hate fat chicks lying about their weight curses of internet dating, you were right to take off, they were clearly taking advantage of you.
Hey Chris
That was a smart move, I like your thinking.
Some people may well call you a weasel and they think that they are eagles? Pffook them, tell them you are better off being a weasel, as weasels don’t get sucked into jet engines/ I will bear this scam the scammers trip for next time it. I will tell it too my friends too.
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What on earth happened to my last sentence??? ” / I will bear this scam the scammers trip for next time it. I will tell it too my friends too. ” Thai internet I am afraid.
It should read, ” I will bear this scam in mind and I will pass ti onto my friends as well”.
Weird how that got twisted, sorry Chris.
Got to love it Chris. A few nights ago, I was at JP bar, meet this cute babe, who I have seen before, and she and her (sister) friend sit with me. I buy them a drink, and I’m all for going with the babe, her friend is not my type,fat, and loud, but I deal with her, as she keeps trying to take my attention away from my babe, who I’m going to do that night, if i can this this dumb friend of her’s away from us.
Anyway, her friend plays the I’m going to get this guy to buy my beer and shot trick, orders both, the waiter, really the manager, brings the order, and he hands me the check, I say right back to her and him” not my Check” I no pay…put her on the spot, and the waiter hands her the check, they try it one more time, and I look at them both, and say no.
She pays it, now the manager who has seen me many times drink here, never says a word to me, but later he gives me that pat on the arm, like good for you don’t let Thai lady play you.
Now I still get the babe as I say to her you want to come with me, otherwise I go, she’s like up and out with me in a New York second, once we are out of reach of her friend, I tell her, I’m not stupid falang, if her friend had asked me I would have bought another beer, but don’t play me….she says I was right,I gained a lot of respect from her, and I think the manager.
Thai’s will respect you if you stand your ground, if you cave in to Thai Ladies BS… you are sunk, and will be played all the time by others, as they all talk and see it.
Don’t get played, exactly!
That was hilarious and a good job. I think some of us would have striked out the second time, like me! I don’t think what you did was bad or low at all. They deserved it.
I think I would call these types of girls gold diggers rather than scammers. You see these flakes everywhere around the world. They really do not have interest in you as a person, but only as a means to have fun that night on your dime. I guess if you accept it for what it is, it could be fun. But don’t expect any payout! I’d rather spend that money on a lady from a beer bar, at least the odds are that you’ll get some return on your investment!
classic. great strategy chris. in US we call this a “hog and jog” I would have loved to see their faces when you didn’t come back!
Hog and job, never heard that before i like it.
That’s hilarious! You’ll have to update us on what she says if she contacts you again. Sometimes when I’m at the bar and a girl says she wants another drink I’ll say, ‘great, will you get me one as well while you’re up?’ Not exactly a scam but it’s fun to turn the tables sometimes.
Yes its true every now And then i then i would invite a girl to pay her round back fist time i did it was more of a test it was my first few weeks in thailand it was to see what girls where working girls or non working and i have a strict rule of not paying for sex because i’m young and i get laid enough in australia with backpacker chicks for free with women that dont expect any thing else than a shag i’m a cheap basterd i usualy have a very good sence of jugement and from all the stories i heard before coming here and after arriving i was extra safe in my every move not to get ripped of not to waste money on chicks that wouldn’t have interest in you if you were broke i’ve told a lot of girls that i didn’t have much money the hookers i have been with i always told hem up front if you hang out with me there will be no money at all look at that fat old guy over there he looks loaded go for him dont loose your time with me and most of hem told me i do what i want i do what makes me happy i go with guys i like even when i work i can choose i was sort of learning my own way around detecting hookers being cappable of telling the difference because a lot of thai girls are outstanding actress at the whole love and seduction procès and sometime you cant exactly walk to them and ask hem if they are a prostitute without risking to upset them and loose them asking for a thai girl to get the round back or kind of acting like your are expecting her to oftenly help a pro hardly wants to spend money on a customer but sometimes do and just charge you afterwards they are smart ones i’ve been tricked a few times thinking i was with a nice girl into me and realised only to late that she is a pro and left to get back at the game but i have to say some girls from ladybars i have been with (met out side of the work place) have bought stuff all day long. Stopped me from reaching my pocket it made me feel like i was the prostitute at times i do hate scamers ho and lets buy drinks for all of my friends in thailand the girls will only respect you more for beeing smart and strict with your money the one who will tell you your a cheap charlie are clearly after rich charlie if you meet a girl late your having doubts about how trustworthy that chick might be. Dont. Bring her back to your room just. Take another room for the night that room will have nothing of you exept what you have on yourself of course there is ways of playing always be on guard never trust to fast and all your in for is good suprise of the fact that in there girls you will meet a nice. Girl
english motherf****r do you speak it?
Chris, hilarious story, and only an idiot would think you an asshole for getting back at those leeches. High-five for you.
I’ve been lucky enough to never get scammed with this kind of crap, but if I joined a table of people I were not overly interested in paying for, I’d pay for each item I ordered as I was getting it. I.e., I order a beer, I pay for that beer when I get it. No need for me “check bin” as nothing I’ve ordered would be on the bill, and I’d just bid my adieu once I realized this one was a dud.
Also I prefer to just meet at a coffee shop or something first. I’m ok with sponsoring a cup of tea/juice for her while I sip my coffee and we find out if we like each other or not. No need to
plan a big night out on a blind date IMO.
One time this fat chick from a datingsite proceeded to
eat most of my cake too though, even though I had not offered her a taste because I, wrongly, assumed she had the good sense to be dieting. That was pretty annoying and I left walking shortly after I finished my coffee, declining her offer to drive me home.
Very smart move, congrats on having the balls to do it.
Only thing is : aren’t you worried, they’ll try to put the heat on you in the restaurant like ‘it’s the farang who ordered, he must pay’.
Especially if you’re living in the area.
Or maybe they’ll try to come back at you with male friends ?
I know that’s not courageous but that’s what i’d be afraid of.
There is always that risk sure, I should probably mark the article with a disclaimer “try at your own risk”
wow chris those chicks deserved it , the next time they will be be more cautious to play the trick with some farang
The only lowlifes who would think that you’re an asshole are those who engage in scamming. Who cares what they think? As far as I’m concerned you achieved hero status. Well done mate and welcome back to Chiang Mai.
yes! you did the right thing…
These parasitic Thais will just take and take and take, either a good slap of humiliation is the only way to stand your ground with a sociopathic parastite. These women are psychologically BAD. no excuses…
Want to be the heroic Farang with morals and a big heart and throwing tips at everyone? You are just corrupting them even more, and its because of you these Thais exist.
I like Chris’s style, he could have made a scene in the first bar but he played it cool and won the game in style. yes its a game folks
HAHA. Love it.
This happens in all the go-go bars. Everyone wants a drink. Even the ex mamasan ghost
One time this happened to me I was in the US. On a date in Chicago. This girl showed up with her friend. I said. Oh I didn’t know you were bringing your friend. Yeah she’s just going to have a couple of drinks with us. During drinks at the bar, there was a coldness in the air I felt from them. There was little chat between my date and me so I just played it along until (I thought) the friend would leave after drinks. We go to sit down and the friend follows us. HMMMmmm. We order dinner (they both got the $30 steaks). Same thing during dinner. Mostly conversation with them. I was the 3rd wheel. My date was not at all interested in me. I’m not even sure she really knew my name (which was good hehe)
On a $150 bill I said Hmm wow I need to go to the ATM. They’re like yeah whatever dude and kinda laughed at each other . haha I BOOKED it out of there. I sent a text and said. Nice TRY Thanks for dinner.
DD
She called me back cursing ghetto style. I said First, you lied about your pic, (yeah she got fat from all her free meals) then you bring your friend and try to get me to pay for it. hehe Sorry .. Got several hate texts and threats in my vm. LOL damn it felt good to hog and jog.
Good going dude! You know I hate to see other guys get taken for a ride, it’s not even about the money so much it’s about girls taking advantage of the game, when they play hard, you need to play harder. You did well!
I was tricked into this sort of thing in NY. Lighting a cigar, 2 stunning German speakers ask for a light. We get to talking (I speak German, and they were stunning, and I am a straight male, so, yeah). They ask me to have a drink. I knew I should have said no, but then, why not have one, and so on. In the end, I have 2 scotches and end up paying just under $200. I tried to get them to pay. I tried to convince them there was a problem with my card. God, they got away very quick after I had paid. I knew something was wrong, but god, they were good. And I could not get away to speak to the waiter to split the check, so I pay for my stuff, and hightail it out of there. I had alarm bells the whole time, but they were good at this thing–they were not new to this. It is not even the money so much as the fact that I feel violated. Anyway, it really sucks that there is no legal recourse I could use against them– after a few drinks, one leaked enough that I could track her down.
Gents,
Good show, all in all.
On reading your Thai scammer stories, I had to state (after 3yrs in LOS), that it is not only the Thais… In HK it is just as bad there.
My brother was out (without me) in Lan Kwai Fong, on LIMITED funds. Indeed I was paying for his whole trip across China/HK.
So.. he is dancing, having a good time with a few of my colleagues, when he ‘pulls’ a nice looking HK bird.
She makes it clear she’d like to sleep with him, and he tells her I’m not paying for it. They leave the club (expensive to enter), walking along, and she makes it clear he is to pay 1500 HK. He stops her in the street by standing in front of her, and says loudly and clearly – I have no money for you.
Oh, so ‘ let us go for a few drinks instead then ‘. She chooses a cocktail bar, orders HK-priced cocktails for her and her other lady-friends she knew already in the bar, and my bro could sense they were lining him up for the bill. Uh oh.
He said he needed to go have a smoke outside, bummed a lighter, got past the bouncers, and ran for his life. Good boy.
Psychologically, I wonder how they interpret this pay-back, but I’m worried they learn from experience…
I had a dinner with a girl who I met in an internet site. She took me to a big thai restaurant. She ordered very expensive food and drinks. I told her in the beginning that I had only 500B with me. She said she will pay with her card and I pay later. The bill was about 2000B. After that she said she will come with me to my hotel and I pay her. We went to the hotel she just want to sit in the lobby and told me to get the money. I said I will give the money tomorrow. She said she want to have my passport for security. I said I cannot give my passport. She said her brother is a police officer and she is going the call him. She talk with the hotel staff something in thai. I give her 1500B to end the scene. After she leave she send me a text saying I have to give her 5000B tomorrow to end the story or she will come back with police. Anyway I got little scared and moved to a different hotel.
Random story Sam, these girls are vultures and will eat you alive, stay away from bar girls bro!
Hi All,
Great read from all your comments! I thought I was the only Farang in Thailand who scams the lowlife back ( bar girls, dinner date scammers, freelancers in Clubs, bars ). I play them all at their own game and I get way with it every time…. How?… They just don’t expect a taste of their own treatment , especially from a well dressed , respectful , charming gentleman farang that I portray to be for that evening.
My attitude ( like it or not) is that they should feel privileged to be with such a fun loving farang for the evening!… They can pay for the entertainment!
Mack
Don’t you guy think that they are really some nice genuine girls that spent for at least 34 hours to impress her date and also spent a couple thousand for a new dress for the date? It is not fair for her to be treated that way after her effort to look as best as she could just to appear to be super pretty to you. If you think that paying dinner for a girl is being scammed..then don’t get dates..
From Chiang Mai girl..
I think your missing the point. The point is some girls who go out for dinner with you are purely doing it for a free meal and that chiang mai girl is a scam.
if the girl seems interested in the guy and actually looking forward…no guy will will do this…..this post is just to warn guys about “FEW” scam girls….
Dude I invented that scam! Sorry that you got done ey. Too bad you didn’t find this blog earlier.