How much are Thai girls worth
When I moved to Thailand in 2009 I must admit I felt a little green but luckily I had some old timers around to get me up to speed. I remember one conversation with a mate Gary (real name withheld) who told me how to look at Thai girls here. He said there was a number on each girl at first I thought he was talking about the badges with numbers on them in the Go Go bars but no. The number for each Thai Girl was the number of baht you'd have to pay out to be with her.
At the time I was 28. Now 28 you can still let lots of Thai girls that want nothing more than a good roll in the hay. After 50 most guys have told me that it's no longer like that and from what I've seen I believe it too. Most the guys who read this blog are at least 15 years older than I am and I thank the heavens that I discovered LOS in time that I've had the benefits of being younger in this country of limitless fresh thin sweet eager p.....
With each passing day I'm growing closer and closer to the inevitable. The Thai girls are more and more looking at me with $$ signs in their eyes and their hand open. Especially for the younger ones 10 years my junior. I've been told this is the start and back to my mate Gary the numbers are becoming more and more visible.
Gary's explanation was actually pure genius he explained to me by looking at a Thai girl you can determine the price you'd have to pay for her. The pricing system by the way doesn't work on Gary's system because they are all pretty standard rates 500-5000 per night, real Thai girls well the ones that arn't outright hookers anyway work on a monthly salary whether they work or not someone has to give them money every month, it's what you get in return depends on what sort of money you pay in return.
Please no comments saying I'm the jerk because what I'm saying here is the truth and how it works in Thailand whether you agree or not this is how things are. Accept it.
How much are Thai girls worth
So Gary says you look at a Thai girl and based on how she is dressed whether her hair is dyed, her age, and level of looks based on a scale from 0-10.
You have probably rated Thai girls on the scale before this is the normal way to rate girls. But Gary says for Thai girls you need to consider the other facts.
A girl with dyed hair for example will add another 1000-3000 baht onto your monthly bill. A girl with fair skin will always cost 30% more than a girl with darker skin. (A girl with fair skin will almost always give you less bang for your buck).
A younger prettier Thai girl is worth more and we used to sit down at dinner a lot and watch the girls walk past putting numbers to each of them. Costs for Thai girls range from 3000 baht a month which you'd likely get action now and then and she is not going to be the best looking girl. Maybe you have higher standards and you go for the mid range about 15,000 baht a month. Your likely to get a girl aged 23-25 good looking but she's likely to work a lot still. Problem with a girl that much is especially if your not single you might only get 4 or 5 opportunities a month so really it's costing you 3-4000 baht a time. Not good value for money.
Gary says that Thai girls all have a "willing to do anything for money policy" and that breaking point is typically 5 times the number on their head.
Just because the price goes up doesn't mean you get more quality time, you just get more quality the action. The average Coyote dancer in Thailand may make 20-40,000 a month. She's good looking, great body and happy to accept the cash. If you paid out 30,000 a month you can pretty much have the pick of most good looking girls in Thailand. But depending on Gary's rule depends on what you get. See you could pay 30,000 a month to a 3,000 a month girl and she will be at your beck and call and pretty much do anything you ask. But give 30,000 baht to a 20,000 baht girl and she will be much better looking but won't do as much. Gary says that Thai girls all have a "willing to do anything for money" and that breaking point is typically 5 times the number on their head.
A 20,000 baht a month Thai girl has been getting the money from somewhere before you met her, she got the money to dye her hair, do her nails, dress in stilettos, and use an iPhone. Now if you want to be the new carer of this girl (which has the added benefit of being able to nail her when you want) your going to have to pay that number, without paying you may only get it once or twice until she realises you arn't going to help out.
Thai girls work by the month, they pay all their bills on a monthly basis and will be seeking you out before and after the end of the month. If your seeing a Thai girl casually, never ever make yourself available between the dates 25 until the 7th the next month. This is what I call the hot season. This is when Thai girls are the hottest for money (an expression borrowed from Thai people). It's a fact that during these dates are the time Thai girls are most actively seeking money. I see it with Thai girls online and other girls I meet.
Going from what it's worth to what you pay for a Thai girl
Gary also explains that going from the number you've put on the girls head to how much you end up paying is a process on it's own. You can't simply walk up to a normal Thai girl and say "hey I'll give you 10,000 baht a month to do this that and this".Normal Thai girls have more respect than that. They arn't cheap hookers. They're expensive playmates and long term escorts. 🙂
You have to get into their head, what they want. Typically it's three things, money for their family. Enough money to buy clothes and fit themselves out. And someone to be there when they want to talk. Well the last thing let her friends take care of that. Especially if it's going to be your gik, but as a girlfriend you might just have to suck that shite up.
Once you've figured out more about her change your figures re-evaluate the situation yourself. Then decide what your willing to pay. You may have to play a sort of courtship with the girl. Each time you meet mention how you'd like to take care of her. Say the word "Take Care" in English. It envelopes everything. After about the 10th time you've seen here you need to press her then for an answer. If she says no then don't call her don't see her nothing.
I don't care how many of them say no this is what happens. They get stuck somehow and need assistance and call you up. It may be when they've lost their job or in a hard time. And this is when you can strike. You've allready done the background work and got a fair market value. I had a girl 2 years ago ask me to do this. I said when you finish school give me a call. 2 years later she graduated 12th grade a month later she called me up and was ready to do it. Later I found out she went and got a job for 10,000 and didn't like having to work so she called me because she could make more money for doing less.
Another girl I know worked as PR at Omallys bar in Chiang Mai. She was hot and had dollar signs in her eyes. Around 22 and knew I had a g/f. She didn't want to date me because I had a girlfriend but after pressing and pressing for months she finally agreed to get together agreed price of 10,000 a month.
The good thing about these types of transactions is for what $330 a month a pretty good deal. She doesn't bug you for money as much because your already giving it to her. You don't have to live with her, she will meet you where and when and is obligated to perform. But as soon as you get bored or it's more of a chore than anything cut it off. Many guys might have to grow some balls to do this part but it's needed. You ever fired someone? Same thing. Do exactly the same thing if you want to re-negotiate for a better deal. I use re-negotiations to get added extras. It's hard to take the money away from her without her being bitter but you getting more things you want for the same money is your ultimate goal. So leave room for growth in your expectations.
So next time your out with the boys instead of calling 6, 9, and 10's why not try calling 3000, 10000, and 30,000 out at the girls. I don't know if Gary invented this or not but i'll him credit, he did introduc me to it afterall. I wonder though, what number is on your girlfriends head?
Your a Jerk!
… keep up the good work Chris.
What you are saying here paints a pretty grim picture.
I have been happily married to a Thai lady for almost 30 years. But I must admit, she is one of the old school.
So these days are you surmising that all has changed and the old school of Thai women no longer exist? And at present times in most relationships between Thai women and Western men, the Thai women are only in it for what they can gain as more of a business enterprise rather than a partnership based on love and romance?
Love to hear your comments on this?
Yes in 2013 of feb.i came to patong.its now 2018 Dec.after building house in village in khon kaen and buying land .house 2 million.land 500 thousand.a new car.all that she ever wanted.i find out she borrow money against the land.200 thousand baht.blus she loose 90 thousand baht playing game.and she borton90 thousand baht last year and she had borrowed 80 thosand baht 4 years ago.now i tell her i wont pay her 200 thousand baht off that she borrow against house and land.she said to me that i dont take care of her.so she wants to go work in bar and get money to pay back loan.i say sell some land.she wont sell land.she will still have some land and house but she wont.i said all you eant to do is sell your self until you find me man with big pockets.she said yes.
Very well written and informative Cris. It reminds me of Tina Turner’s “What’s love got to do with it?” You are on you way. Few get an early start.
Chris, are we living in the same Thailand? Came here when I was 20, living here since (same as you), 28, but still a certifiable virgin. Fluency in Thai seems to be a disadvantage in my last 8+ yrs. living in los, as is money (most birds I know prefer broke factory workers from what I see around me, at least they’re getting some!)
This is one of the most stupid articles I’ve readen about Thailand in years… and it says a lot about the author.
You think they’re only for your money? Of course. Because you are willing to pay from the first moment and because you probably go looking for your ‘girls’ at places like Insomnia, Spicy or that kind of shit.
I lived here for two years, I speak Thai fluently and I never paid NOTHING for a girl. I don’t pay taxis. I don’t pay them drinks. And when we go to the restaurant we pay together. Like I’ve done all my life in Spain.
Paying 10.000 bath for a girl is the most stupid thing someone can do in his life. Aren’t you good enough to have a girl? Are you so ugly, stupid or shy? It’s better to stay alone than having a girl because you pay for her.
Oh, and because people like you there’s so many hookers in Thailand. Thank you for fucking off this country.
By the way, you know what happens on the other side? I met some girls that have guys who payed for them. Typical ‘boyfriends’ who gave them from 10.000 to 40.000 per month for playing that role of acting like their girlfriends. But then they came with me, and payed everything for me. They always were ok to say that to me. “Don’t worry, I pay this bottle of whisky because Frank gave me money yesterday, you don’t have to pay”, was usual on one of them.
So funny, you agree? People like you were giving money to them. And they were spending that money for paying my drinks. And believe me that you don’t want to know what they were saying about the guys who were giving money to them…
Please, stop this nonsense shit of giving money to girls. Because of that I want to hear everytime that stupid thing about “farang rich, farang can pay”. Just because stupid guys are spending A LOT on having a fake girlfriend.
Think about it. In your country you were probably called a loser. You really want to let your friends know that you’re a total loser that needs to ‘buy’ a girlfriend?
Why glad you came along and read the article anyway, but don’t be so hasty to judge me the same. Hang around the blog a bit and see what else I might have to say. Your probably better reading Normal girls turn into prostitutes. We’ve had a number of Thai people come to the blog and they’d probably tell you your the loser because you don’t pay! lol. Hey i’ve payed many ways for thai girls, and free yes I get that alot, don’t keep sticking to one method mate or you’ll never get as much pussy as I do.
I doubt I’m the reason that there are so many hookers in Thailand either. There are more hookers serving Thai guys than there is hookers serving foreigners! But hey I don’t need to buy a girlfriend man I already have one I could have another one for free too but I find it’s better just to get free sex, girlfriend sex, dirty slut sex, lesbian sex, and everything in between. Oh and my mates back home if I bought some trophy girl back in Aus they’d think that’s cool.
Maybe Spain is different I can’t be sure never been, but I guess Thailand is better if your here.
“……you’ll never get as much pussy as I do”
hey man, you sound like an intelligent guy from your postings. so why do write like you need a girl or two, or some trophy girlfriend to boost your ego and make you feel worthy?
and i’d rather be a ‘loser’ and not pay, then be a paying loser. that way, i still have the fuckin’ cash to keep me company, ker-ching!
Lol, fuck me. Dudes who still haven’t figured out you pay no matter what. Too fuckin’ funny. See you in a few years stud.
Agree with the spaniard. I’ve been living in Thailand for a couple of years and I don’t pay for anything or anybody. I suppose it’s different for different people… I’m 28 and I’m generally considered attractive here with light hair, light eyes, muscle and fairly tall… Maybe that has something to do with it. I can get laid everyday or even multiple times a day from different girls…and I avoid spending money. I’m not a crazy cheapskate. I’ll buy a drink or a cheap meal sometimes and girls will often do the same for me. I also have met quite a few girls that have their ‘boyfriend’ or sugar daddy that pays for them. My friends and I call them the sponsors. The sponsored girls often pay for my stuff. They try to hide it but there are telltale signs and often I’ve been straight up and asked them after sex and they confess. Most of the girls I meet don’t seem to have them though..the cost of living in Thailand isn’t too high and there is a pretty big middle class due to strong economic growth. Lots of the young girls just like to party…they look for a boyfriend also. I’d say that cheating is pretty rampant, apart from the rare ‘good girl’…which generally comes from a good middle class family. Anyone who is paying a monthly salary or much of anything beyond the occasional date (not extravagant) is getting played. Conversely, if you are older and don’t fit the hot farang with 6 pack obsession that the girls here have, then it might apply. One more note.. If you are meeting girls at gogo bars, near soi 11, or especially pattaya or the known bargirl spots..,then that explains everything.
I’ve heard this comment over and over again. I’m good looking, i don’t have to pay for sex, never have, blah blah blah. Come back and comment in 25 years.
I honestly have to agree, Bullshit!
LOL, I dont even have to finish reading some of these guys comments..
U are a F’ing legend man… I love u…
I see the prob is ego people.. everyone related to their own situation, WAKEUP! there are others about… D’head..
make ur own blog then, Piss off….
This site is great.. sure it does not relate to many.. but it
relates to a large %… which educates MOST (forget urself)
Myself I have a sweet darling thai girl for 2 years now, prob marry and start another family BESIDES THE POINT!!!!!
IT IS NOT ABOUT ME!!!!!
Geez u guys piss me off…
Anyways, power to the site, dont let these tossers deter u..
keep up the general truth.. u do realise the 100’s of people who benefit from this wisdom,
Go forth and SEE
Couldn’t have said it better myself! Cheers
I’ve enjoyed reading your article, in fact I’ve subscribe. Tell you what, I agree with you. I heard this ugly stories from my farang men after they had realized their own foolishness paying monthly bills to their g/f’s and were losers in the end.
Keep on updating us. I’ve read haters’ comments here. I think they just don’t admit their own stupidity before and pretend they were doing clean and never knew anything what’s going on around wth most thai women’s practice with farang.
I have to admit I kind of agree with you. But this kind of thing applies to all cultures to some extent: what woman in the US or UK would marry a beggar just because he’s handsome. people are after security wherever you go. I honestly think that the Thai girls are smart for doing these things. They’re just watching out for number one. But that doesn’t mean to say that one of them won’t love you and stand by you. It depends what you want really. I know I’d love to have more Thai girls, but I have a son now and wouldn’t want to break up the family.
Best girls on earth! Save perhaps Japan 😉
Thank you guys for this wonderful forum. It was really of great help. I recently had a trip to Thailand and was almost stuck in the same situation after coming back. The girl which I got in parlor was damn beautiful and played well. I thought she is in love with me after we spent some days together. Now once I have come back she started giving me all the reasons of her problems. And finally asked financial help. I could have given her some help but after reading this forum, I stopped my self. I need to double check or even I don’t have to after reading all the experience of you wonderful people. Thanks Guys!!!
hey, I’ll be in Thailand, or anywhere outside North America for the first time in one week.. interested in experiencing some of the local, you know.
I gotta say, man, what is this by-the-month thing? Why not pay for one time, every time? Why have a fake gf, a real one’s enough stress??
I’m 24, not bad looking, and curious what the average price is for a pretty hot 20ish girl, one night full deal. Also, is there any quick legit way for a girl to prove she’s over 18?
Ahh, 24 huh…. well, I first started cummin here at about 34, and with only 2 weeks vacations time at a time I would want to maximise my “party time” so totally agree, why would you want a GF… But I guess there are some who miss that feeling of having someone (besides sex) and not being lonely.. but if you are leaving anyways what is the point.. just my 10c worth..
mmm. So racist.
My girlfriend is Thai – we are both 32 years old, both work in good jobs, split most things 50/50, respect each other for who we are, I can hold my own in Thai and she is fluent in English. I cant speak for every girl in Thailand and neither can you, so it’s not “how it is in Thailand” is it?
Sure not everyone is the same and there are exceptions to every rule. When I speak of Thai people it’s normally generalising as to how the greater population, the majority, are like.
Everyone seems to just apply the topic to themselves..
that is human nature.. but cmon, if Chris says Thai girls have smaller boobs, do you pipe up and say a girl you know has big ones…. of course not (well some numpty heads would I guess) Of course Chris is talking about the majority…
“My girlfriend is Thai – we are both 32 years old, both work in good jobs, split most things 50/50, respect each other for who we are”
She is over the hill compared to you. She should be paying you. A woman peaks at 23, a man peaks at 35. You are getting fucked alright.
I am 50 and I wouldn’t fuck a woman over 24. You think you are getting a free ride when you are actually losing your time with a woman who is below you.
I really like your website, but this post was really shocking. I’m not denying that this is the way it goes, but I am astonished how people can be so casual about it and consider this a “normal” thing. Of course you could “blame” the girls because they go along with it but I still find it incredible how people would actually pay a girl to get in her pants from time to time and then just break it up when they are bored with her. If both sides agree, well how am I to judge but the way the topic was discussed seemed very inhuman and disrespectful to me.
Thanks for the comment Charlie, while it may seem disrespectful this is how things go for many girls in Thailand. Most don’t need a sponsor but at 20 they arn’t exactly looking to get married. If both parties agree it’s doing no harm. In the west guys might say “oh she’s a 7” indicating her attractiveness probably just as disrespectful though when I lived in the states I had many girls that we’d just hook up for regular sex without exchanging any funds. Thai people are motivated more by material gains than by sexual desires which I find this is why sponsoring is common here.
True to a point but the reality is that, whether from the pits of Thai society right up to the elite, they all have their price.
Back in my grandparent’s time my grandfather and grandmother lived all they’re lives in a council house. Granddad worked and gran stayed at home as the loyal little housewife and mother of the children.
That’s all changed, the girls are no longer content with the housewife status and family based duties. These days it`s more about pay as you go relationships based on materialistic gain rather than love and family duty.
Of course there are always going to be exceptions to the rule, but in general I’m afraid that’s the way it is, a sad sign of the times.
SHOCKING! Just break up when bored? lol.. 8/10 girls (bar girls) are probably playing 5-10 guys at once…
PS. Be careful during foreplay.. ever wonder why it tastes different?
They put a price on everything so it is their game.. their country, their culture… who are you to try to change things.. good luck..
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Thank God. All Thai minds aren’t twisted like yours. You attract what you are, no more, no less.
Bah, all women have a price… it’s their instinct for security..
I am 61, from Sydney, and like Chris, I have been in SE Asia since my 20s. What Chris says about measuring a SE Asian girl’s price is correct. They know their value. So long as there males willing to pay, there will be a market.
You can’t blame Asians for this; they had no choice of the materialistic me-first consumerism they learned from modern capitalism and ads on TV. When they greedily want more stuff, more iPads, more cars, biggers TVs, the newest cloths, they are only performing the economic function they have been called to perform.
hahahaha i love how some people get so wound up about the topics chris shares with us. nobody made you read it, why are you here? i think it is a win win for everyone, $300 month?? shit it costs me that to go out in my boat for 1 day, plenty of morons pay that and more for shoes or a pair of jeans. but $300 month to a thai girl that is studying or perhaps finished can make a huge difference in their life. so what if 2 consenting adults are getting laid in the process, she was more than likely gonna be giving it up to someone for free who might not treat her as nicely. who knows? i would look at it as we might be in a position to help , at very little cost to us, it is surely our responsibility to help others less fortunate….?! i doubt chris is an asshole towards any of them. yes there might be guys that are but those guys were most likely gonna be assholes regardless if they were paying or not. i sure as hell dont think it makes for a loser. perhaps people who chose this way like having the good parts of having a girlfriend without dealing with the bad bits… i think it sounds pretty sweet, but thats probably why i chose to read this. how much does your missus back home cost you a month and is it worth it?? keep it up chris
A good logical reply.. I like it..
I think you have hit the nail right on the head ignore the advice at your peril
Interesting evaluation of the whole process. It has simplified the mathematical equation to make it fool proof, and I will use it my process of picking a steady side piece.
But I wonder how many are overpricing themselves from the jump, as we all know that the Thais are great at haggling for a better price. So I will approach it like I am at MBK trying to buy a new phone, hedging my bets to get the merchant to go down 5-10 %
Your all sad losers. Thinking with. the head on your tosers instead of the head on your shoulders. Do you all realise your being laughed at & taken the piss out of with your big egos. Some of u end up losing everything u ever worked for or built up.and the ones with wifes & girlfriends have not thought of theheartfelt pain they causeland lifes destroyed with people that really love them
Some of u end up losing everything u ever worked for or built up.and the ones with wifes & girlfriends have not thought of theheartfelt pain they causeland lifes destroyed with people that really love them.
And for us English speakers?
No Tigers I mean Thai Girls commenting. Happy for us to pay it seems. I want sex with lots of girls free or for a bowl of noodles. Great blog Cris
Of course we pay, these are very poor people whose government helps them in no way..Evrrywhere in the world men pay..I would like to be around when the braying buffoon at 28 who says only fools pay..he will be losing women in this life to guys who do…
At 66 , i think i have had enough reasons for this belief irregardless of what a child thinks… it is a relative issue.. The younger handsomer and more humorous guys can get by with lower amounts , but i would hate to see what a 35 year old thai woman looks like that stays with a foreigner for much time for free looks like..
glad you dismissed the young fool without buying into his tossing about the “loser ” label..
I have a very rich friend most the time he lives on his yacht surrounded by beautiful women who come on board one after the other. He says he’s never paid for sex but it costs him $1000 a day for his yacht so does he pay or not?
@Chris…..You addressed the point exactly. a lot of people do not look at the big picture. The people who get hung up on ‘paying for it’ are focused on egotistical technicalities, instead of the total costs and sacrifices that are needed to bed a woman. You have to add some kind of value to their lives. It is usually financial, but sometimes it can just be spicy sex or they need someone to talk to.
Coincidentally, those who claim to never pay for it never detail EXACTLY how they do it. Just like a magician hesitates to show you how they performed their trick or how a scammer doesn’t reveal the con until after they ripped you off. How much was the plane ticket? How much is the guesthouse? How much for transportation? How much for food?
Humans can open their mouth and produce sound, but it doesn’t mean that what they say is true. Just about everything that Chris has said is provable and in many of his articles he provides specific steps to how he approaches a problem so that you can see if it works for you. Very few authors and bloggers can do this mainly because very few have the experience + ability to articulate this (but mostly they lack the experience).
I was roaming the thai lands in 2005…to me.. i couldnt give a fluck what she wants..i give her my price and if she doesnt like it fluck off…you an emotional romantic guy…get reddy to bend over…beautiful bodies..willing to please…and they suck like champions…love is a state of mind and extended feeling..to me its just ends up in shit…so i choose to roam the wastelands..when your to far gone in life….physically and mentally…you start to burn that stump of a candle till theres nothing left…its all about what i want…fuck the world!!!
I believe you will never fall in love, you are also getting ripped off, and you are english.
I have dated girls including educated and independent girl from Thailand.
She paid for the movies as often as I did, it’s called dating.
Ok, so your mate gary is hideously disfigured, and talks like the elephant man, i can understand his skewed extension of prostitute-pricing applied to all women in a certain country. But take my advice, try being charming, and actually getting to know a girl. You might surprise yourself. and no, it has nothing to do with the country, they probably think this is how ‘western’ men operate. Until they meet a normal guy like me, and we laugh and talk about the pommy git who offered to pay her loyalty money like some eccentric pimp.
You’re such a educated gentle man, Penguin!
You’re such “an” educated gentle man, Penguin!
Sorry for the typo. Sent via iPhone ;p
just finnished my first tour of thialand, you have nailed it , spot on, any one who has different views on these girls and think money only applies to a small percentage , heres some advise ( stop taking drugs ) wake up .
would you at 25 spend time with someone at 55 ???????????? no , would you if she said do this co that heres £100, ????
Put your light on and learn from this web site
thks,from a thia virgin
Poor you, you just not lucky or smart enough see or to find good Thai girls.
No wonder why good thai girls never date with foreign (farang)
because you guys always put numbers on her head
you should respect everyone like gentleman
thailand it’s not sexland you have so many things to do
in Thailand . you ever do meditate? Do you know why ppls
go to temple? Do you know about real thai culture?
noo you just wanna get laid in Thailand 🙁
remember good girls never ever want money from you !!
Good Thai girls never want money from you? haha Only a girl would say that too.
That’s for sure…
Thai culture is leftover from long before when Thailand was a functional kingdom and women were property. Thai women and men are conditioned by intimate and ancient cultural mores to expect women, not men, to support their families. Village girls are not supported to go far in school while males skate through. Girls were once the trusted keepers of the family treasury and carefully spent to care for their families. Now the girls are trapped with the old conditioning in a new world. Today the luckier ones work and school as well. The less lucky will suffer for hard cash. This makes for a huge inequity between the sexes.
The sexes were never equal and never will be. But Long ago with the tributes paid to the king and to the buddhist church wealth was shared. The king did good works for the people and the monks taught the dhamma. Sit down and share a meal with Thais and you will understand. Their good humor comes from a tradition of sharing, wine, women, and song. With the incursion of self- centered western consumerist culture, Traditional Thai culture has broken down. Now theres rampant matetialism plus high divorce rates, and the double standard of socially accptable boy buttetflies/male promiscuity. All this leaves Thai women dysfunctionally subservient, abused, pimped by their own families and ignorant of the trap they are in. It is important to understand that children and elders are esteemed. They are held close in the hearts of Thai ladies while husbands for all these reasons are not as much
Here is a simple set of prioritized Thai values from most to least important
1 Family-parents and children
2 Saving face
3 Material wealth
Women all over the world take advantage of men…..child support, spousal support, ME TOO movement, family law, right to not work within family, demand for support in a relationship and the demand for continued support after relationship, cheating, affairs etc….
Men have the high rate of suicide compared to women by 3 times….men have the highest stress globally….
Women should be cheap and paid what they are worth. Own them!! They try to own us….so therefore I love this site!! Even when I fuck them I make sure I own them…right down the the ejaculation (minus the sperm)….owned.