Pattaya vs Chiang Mai, the 2012 Debate
While the Americans have just concluded the 2012 Presidential debates, Chris and I have decided to publicly engage in our own little debate. You see we have a difference of opinion when it comes to the topic of “best place to live in Thailand.” Chris strongly believes it’s Chiang Mai, while I think its Pattaya hands down. I’m going to go first and present my reasons for why the obvious choice has to be Pattaya, and Chris will follow with his reasoning for why his choice is Chiang Mai. We are counting on YOU GUYS to chime in and tell us what you think. Who won the debate? Where is the best place to live in Thailand? Is it Chiang Mai, is it Pattaya, or do you want to throw another location in the mix?
Mike on why Pattaya is the best place to live in Thailand:
Pussy. Debate over; I win. That was easy!
Ok, so I guess I should go more into detail, but I’m not sure I really have to since Pattaya is Pussy Heaven and since 99% of the visitors to this blog are male. But out of respect for the debate and my opponent I’ll come up with a thorough list of why I KNOW its Pattaya and why it’s not close:
1) Pattaya is close to Bangkok so traveling in and out of the country or to other locations in Thailand is a breeze.
2) Pattaya actually has beaches. Sure Jomtien and Pattaya beaches won’t win any awards, but some beach is certainly better than no beach. Koh Lahn and Koh Sichang are a beautiful and are only a 45 minute boat ride away. Thailand without a beach isn’t what I had in mind when I first signed up to live here. Pattaya offers local beaches and islands in a close proximity.
3) There are more Gogo’s and bars in Pattaya than in almost any other place on the planet. For those of you who say to yourselves, “yea but wouldn’t you get tired of them after a while,” the answer is no. You really never get tired of having 70,000 girls to choose from on a nightly basis. It’s incredible!
4) You can’t beat the food in Pattaya. You can easily get all of the staple Thai dishes for as cheap as can be, but you can also have a never ending supply of non-Thai food. Pattaya has more good restaurants than you would ever need.
5) Pattaya doesn’t close. The night clubs close later in Pattaya than they do in Bangkok, and Soy 6 and about 100 other naughty massage parlors open up at around 11AM.
6) There is so much to do in Pattaya besides the obvious: Watersports, sports leagues, expat clubs, large shopping centers, and many special events. There are two Muay Thai stadiums, many flea markets, 3 movie theatres, 4 large bowling alleys, shooting ranges, atv courses and ziplining tours. You have a few amazing view points, temples, and Silverlake Vinyard next to the Buddha Mountain is beautiful. You will never get bored in Pattaya, it’s impossible.
7) There is more opportunity in Pattaya for an expat than anywhere up North. This is partially due to its proximity to Bangkok, but also due to the amount of foreign companies who have a presence in the city. Getting a good job anywhere in the country is a tall task, but more difficult up north than in Pattaya.
8) For as much as Pattaya offers and for its dynamite location, Pattaya is still very affordable. You can find cheap enough rentals thanks to a glut of empty houses and condo’s on the market.
Everything else will be competitively priced to anywhere else really.
9) Internet speeds are important to many of us, and Northern Thailand can’t compete with Pattaya in this area.
10) If the craziness of Pattaya is at times overwhelming it’s easy enough to just avoid it and that’s one of the great things about Pattaya. If you don’t make your way down to Walking Street you can easily simulate a more peaceful style of living whenever you’d like. You’ll have no problem making a group of friends here and if you have a family there are some good private English speaking schools for children.
I know one of the logical cons of Pattaya is going to be that all of the girls are prostitutes and that there aren’t enough college girls or good girls, thus limiting the chance to meet a “wifey type.” First of all I can make an argument that limiting the chances of meeting a wifey type is actually a good thing. But more importantly there is nothing stopping you from meeting a wifey type outside of Pattaya and bringing her to live in Pattaya with you. It’s called having your cake and eating it too! You can have a good girlfriend and still enjoy the unbeatable selection of women of the night any day you choose. It is 1:30PM right now as I write this and my girlfriend is in my house. I can tell her right now that I’m going to eat lunch with a buddy and then go bang out any 1 of the 5,000 or so day workers that operate in the massage parlors, daytime gogo’s, or on Soy 6. I could make it back to the house in an hour if I needed to because that’s how damn close all of the pussy is to where I live. I can almost smell it.
Pattaya has a little bit of everything going for itself; I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
Chris on why Chiang Mai is the best place to live in Thailand:
I live in Thailand because of two reasons, it's cheap so my money goes way further and secondly for the Thai girls. Most guys I know are the same but if you want a real life then you have to ask yourself if hanging out with hookers and at bars is everything there is in life. For me no, there is a balance and Chiang Mai provides everything you need in a balanced way.
Chiang Mai is a big place, it's bigger than Pattaya and bigger than Phuket it has so many things to do I've lived here for 4 years and still haven't done them all. Sure there is no beach but there is the Hang Dong Quarries, the Mai Gnat dam, and the Mok Fah Waterfall which are fresh water clean and have very few tourists.
Ask any Thai person where the best looking girls from Thailand come from and the name Chiang Mai will come up more than anywhere even in Bangkok which clearly has 50 times more girls there! The girls here are unpretentious and do not care about your money. The girls here have good values and are not interested in bleeding you dry.
Chiang Mai is cheap, in fact it's one of the cheapest cities to live anywhere in Asia that still has all the creature comforts you can find back home. Rent is cheap food is cheap the nightlife is super cheap and you can always find a somewhere to go until the wee hours of the morning.
The weather in Chiang Mai is some of the best in Thailand, the days are sunny and warm and the nights are cool and there's never a hint of too much humidity making the climate here better than anywhere else in Thailand.
Chiang Mai must be the only city in Thailand that doesn't have coyote girls at it's clubs. And for good reason, the girls in the clubs are hotter than the coyote girls! This is a town that still enjoys it's modesty without being in your face, the kinda place guys who want a real girlfriend come to.
There is a massive expat community both old and recently a huge younger expat community. There are so many different clubs around you can find something you enjoy. The people who come to Chiang Mai are more likely to be working online or teaching in a university. Chiang Mai has the largest community of expats making money online in Thailand!
Some say Chiang Mai is boring but they are in for a big surprise within the next two years there will be 9 huge shopping malls, skate parks, ice skating rink several bowling alleys several movie theaters more shopping than you can think of, a huge convention center, a sports park gym swimming pools that only costs 30 baht a time! Not to mention being surrounded by mountains white water rafting ATV riding huge dirt bike tracks, 100's of waterfalls more nightclubs than Pattaya and did I mention 200,000 university students this is a young town, i'm only scratching the surface here.
Chiang mai you can have as much or as little as you like without breaking the bank, you can have a real life in Chiang mai enjoying normalcy yet with the ability to get a little crazy as well.
PS. If you live anywhere else in Thailand please tell us why where you live is the best place to live in Thailand.