I got bit by a farang at Spicy and other drama
I've seen more drama this week than I have my entire stay in Thailand and last night topped the cake when some Farang bit me at Spicy nightclub. I'm there with a few mates and I can see other guys I know around the club and as usual I'm not really talking to any girls just there cause my mates are there you know. So I'm standing there minding my own business getting my groove on when some chick starts dancing behind me I don't know who it is I figured it's another bar slut that doesn't know me when boom! This chick grabs me and bits me on the back at first I thought it was playful until the fangs started cutting deep into my back and I scream out F*&K! I turn around and let this bitch have it, I'm going ape shit at her and she starts yelling at me "I'm not Thai!". Man I don't care I'm still telling her off cause it bloody hurts!
Then she tells me to Fuck off and I tell her off again in Thai figuring I'll just get my frustration out and things won't escalate and she yells at my "I'm from Singapore Idiot!". OMG what a total bitch. One of those hairy arm pit bitches wearing one of those Vang Vieng T-shirts all those idiots seem to wear here in Chiang Mai so I kinda believe her now that she isn't Thai. So what's up with that? I can't believe she bit me but I'm a little drunk and I figure it was ok until I wake up this morning and her teeth marks are etched into my back along with a big bruise. She either didn't like me or it's some weired come on they have in Singapore I don't know anyone else have that happen to them? Anyone live in Singapore know if this is normal?
So I turn around and talk to my mate and try to forget about it when I see her walk off and this wanker comes up to my mates g/f and tries to hit on her. We're in Spicy so you kinda expect that ey I don't think anything of it but I try to help the guy out by you know giving him the head twist letting him know he's wasting his time and should move to the next girl but of course he doesn't get it and keeps going I'm laughing at it now because tourists who come here are stupid or something like that moron from Warm Up who just didn't get it. If you try to hit on a girl and there's a couple of guys standing around looking at you shaking their head giving you the motion to fuck off then fuck off this goes for anywhere in the world and you don't need to speak any language or have any words exchanged. The fact is the stare and the head motioning isn't because the guys doing it are cunts in fact their doing it to try and save your time. In my mind it's better to get a heads up from a guy than it is to get shot down by a girl. Two dumb asses in one night I don't even know how I ended up there.
Now we’ve both been bitten
you got bit too?
yeah man chick next door fuckin hickie. all the Thais been laughin about it
Check with yourself inwardly Chris and ask why you are attracting this shit instead of beautiful loving babes playfully flirting with you! After all, we consciously or unconsciously bring everything into our lives for some purpose, good or bad!
Are you serious? I’m standing there minding my own business when some tourist bites me on the back in a nightclub how the hell does one attract that? BTW I went to the club and left with the hottest chick there that night so yeah for some reason I get the good and the bad.
Why did you feel it necessary to brag about the hottest chick?
I’m not bragging dude, Mr John said i’m just attracting shit and not attracting the lovely girls when in fact I was with a super hottie. The only bragging rights I have is I speak Thai better than 99.9% of farang my age or younger living in Chiang Mai.
get a hiv and hepatitis test if there is any blood contact from her.
Where you wearing a shirt at the time? If not, why not?
Of course dude, that’s kinda weired to take your shirt off inside a club, though I don’t mind if the ladies do it!
Well that’s what I was thinking, although some guys do sometimes.
OMG!thats hilarious !hahaha! it was just plain bad luck i guess.
Maybe I look delicous and she just couldn’t help but take a bite!
Biting is my one of my biggest turnoff.
I dated a semi goth chick from Graystanes ones. She bit me while we where out together thinking it was seductive. I drove her home straight away and never talked to her again.
You buddy are getting yourself into trouble.
Come here and play, and be nice but I’ve seen a hundred thousand of you come and go. A fight at Warmup when you beat the crap out of a guy on the floor – brave move. Now you’re kicking up a stink in Spicy. Mate anyone who has been here a while knows how your story ends. Having a website like this puts you in serious danger. What are you here for, 2 fuck and go and fuck and go. I’ve seen what happens to people who behave as you are – think body bag and your parents getting a phone call. Good luck – change – or you are in serious trouble. That is not a threat from me. I don’t give a fuck, I liked some of what you wrote but I’m advising you, you are in a dangerous place.
I appreciate the concern dude I do, but some chick bites me on my back and suddenly i’m kicking up a stink? WTF?
I am going to add more to this, for you. I’m trying to help you. You can do all the sex and fun but stay under the fucking radar. In Chiang Mai that’s hard enough without a website. Every bouncer in CM probably knows you by now, and trust me they’re just looking for half an excuse. You gotta tone down or you’re not going to last. This is a small fucking city Chris. In BK or Pattaya you’re semi anonymous – right now you’ve got a big target stuck on your head. You have been brave to publish this website and a lot of what you write is honest and good but you gotta get your shit together. You are probably not a borderline alcoholic, you are probably an alcoholic. Try to stop drinking for a week and see how that goes. I am not using my real email address with you but if you want help. Just post a note saying I’d like to talk to advisor.
Mate this city/country is a trip I’ve been there and done it too but you are sailing too close to the wind. You have a talent but control the beast or it is going to kill you.
Tone down what dude? Some chick bites me on my back and I gotta tone it down? I’ve had one altercation in Thailand and some chick bite me on my back, do you know how insignificant that is compared to what most other people have experienced? I’ve listened to the police channel all night bro I know what happens in Chiang Mai and I’ve heard the stories from the guys on the job, I know what goes down. I’m not a loud person and I can’t go anywhere in Chiang Mai without people I know being there as well Thai or Farang zones. To be honest yeah it’s getting kinda old but I doubt very much that Thai bouncers have a target on my head more likely some ignorant farang who doesn’t like what I have to say.
Why did this girl bite you? Was she angry or falling in love? I have never heard anything like it, especially for a girl from Singapore.
I take it from your stance she was not falling in love so what made her want to do that? Madness, or was she actually a Thai with a grudge. People just don’t bite random strangers for no reason.
You say you were a bit drunk, this is spicy, it doesn’t get going until 2.00 a.m. the average person is loaded. Were you being a gent, minding your own business or were you strutting around like the Al Capone of Spicy.
I bear no grudge, I know nothing about you but I know the staff in Spicy and the girls have big memories and they love to kick the crap out of people after a while, for no reason, other than you’re a bit too familar/big headed.
Again, you are good at what you do, keep doing it. Just don’t hit a man when he’s down, obviously a reference to the Warm Up incident.
I honestly have no idea why she bit me, I didn’t even have eye contact with the chick before she did it, pshyco bro! She was from Singapore and like I said was wearing that stupid vang vieng t-shirt the tourists wear, Thai’s don’t wear that and she even said she was from Singapore don’t worry I wrote the book on swearing in Thai if she understood it she would have given me back as much. It happened around 3:30am. Anyone who knows me knows i’m not a loud guy I rarely talk to girls in the clubs I might only hit on maybe 1 or two girls if I go out if that, I like the karaokes. I like to observe more and hang out with my mates and I don’t walk around like I’m king shit, i’m the most affable person you meet being Australian you say hi to me i’ll be like G’day to you. Believe me when I say that Thai girls may hate on me but Thai guys well it’s not often they meet a farang that speaks Thai well (most Thai guys can’t speak English) I tell my sex with the uni girl story to the Thai guys they crack up, yet I got bagged on here for not buying her noodles, go figure! As for Spicy I honestly don’t think I’m ever going back there, I don’t want to get bitten again.
I have changed my opinion since reading more of your site. You do seem to know what you are doing and seem to have done what many out here dream of doing.
Your Thai is excellent from one video I watched and you have opened up Chiang Mai in a way no farang has ever dared to do.
The biting incident/Warm Up were just two out of a thousand nights out for you and we all make mistakes.
Good luck and I wish you every success.
It’s true out of all the nights I’ve ever had out in Thailand really these two times were just the ones where incidents really occurred, when you go out as much as I do it’s bound to happen sometime.
Thank you for your comment hope you’ll come to my next party!
You have to expect the unexpected in a classy establishment like spicy bro i have seen some fucked up shit in there. Mostly girls fighting girls or tourist on tourist but i have also seen a bargirl who lost it after her supposed Farang bfax rocked up with another chick. i don’t think Chiang Mai is a small scene but the hotshots spicy lucky sideshow is and caters for the gutter lovers. there must be something wrong with me too as i often end up there
hangout with shit and shit you will become
Your Thai is good enough to mix in almost any circles you want yet you just wallow in the filth with the idiots. Eventually, once you’ve been in Thailand long enough (trust me, you’re still in the fantasy stages) you will want to engage on different levels and hate the fact you wasted so long on the same topics. Life is likely to catch you up Chris, and you ain’t getting any younger. You seem like a smart guy so work it out.
Also, maybe you should take some responsibility for what your website says. You’re pushing a very one sided view of Thai women, society etc.. it’s one thing to discuss these ideas in the pub with a few friends, quite another to broadcast them online with videos and pictures of yourself. I don’t want to call you naive, and I think that in reality this is all just a way to try and make money off desperate idiots, but either way eventually someone or something might try to hold you accountable for the opinions, advice and ideas you print here.
Those of us (you included) who have made a kind of “commitment” to Thailand by learning language and culture etc etc will always be looked up to by those only visiting or recently arrived etc etc and by setting up this website you are propagating some of the biggest BS ideas about the country and people and most annoyingly for me personally, contributing massively to the already turning-negative opinion many Thais have about whites in Thailand.
Thailand has obviously given you the kind of life you could only dream of back home and that is true for many of us. Why repay it with this condescending, patronizing, perverted drivel on how to bed the locals rather than keeping that info to yourself and a few friends, because frankly its embarrassing as is being in any way associated with your advice on how to trick, trade and bargain your way into pussy.
When I was 17 I thought it was kinda funny to trick girls into doing things, using promises and leading them on. As I grew up, I realised it wasn’t the nicest thing to do and also would sometimes come back on me, too. You seem to have got almost to middle age without making these basic human realizations about the world.
I’m saddened that, unlike the great majority of guys in Thailand, who I think feel a little ashamed of their behavior now and again, you seem to be proud of yours and actively encourage other borderline sociopaths to behave the same way.
Just because you read my site you can’t exactly say you know who I am what I’m about and who I hang out with. The site attracts a particular niche, guys who want to live in Thailand, live the dream and shag as many girls as they can and party hard. I don’t see anything wrong with that and you know what I could just as well make this site in Australia or the USA, ever heard of a guy called Tom leykis? He’s my hero dude and you’ll be surprised how being an asshole to women just makes them want to come back more. My goal here is to make sure guys don’t get scammed by Thai girls and don’t get pussy whipped.
Thailand has hardly given me the life I could only dream of back home bro, do you know how I lived back in California or Australia? Now how can you say that, in fact my life here is a whole lot less lavish probably the only difference is the girls I fuck are a lot younger but then i’m older now so that makes sense. As for tricking girls into having sex with me, that’s hardly what I do, I might write some stories about some times like that because it gets attention and sometimes it’s actually funny.
I do appreciate your comments though and I realise that I need to somewhat change the tone of this blog which will be happening shortly any ideas of what you’d like to see here please let me know.
keep doing what you do Chris, whilst i can completely agree with pretty much everything Jon says.
The facts remains that 95% of Thai farang relationships are a farce, we are being used and manipulated and any westerner who is happily married and thinks otherwise, needs to just wake up. I don’t care if your girl went to Uni, is hiso, loso or whateva. you are not Thai and therefore a meal ticket to a better life.
Morality is good when you get old enough to realize, your going to die soon and you didn’t do anything worthwhile except lie, steal, exploit, drink and monger in selfish hedonism. Your heart will eventually mellow, but until that happens don’t force it, it will happen naturally.
Why is it that high society Thais wouldn’t be seen dead with a Westerner? They have no financial benefit so why would they bother, most are fairly educated much more than the Isarn clams, yet they are naturally materialistic and shallow, its just the Thai culture. Unless the westerners are filthy rich they don’t rub shoulders, at least not in public.
Thais love Thais, then Asians, and then Westerners, just before Africans. Yes its a sick racist society but those mellow ways and those fake smiles have us all intoxicated.
Ofcourse, if you can speak Thai you may get a little more respect, but you will always be the outsider, forever, period! Oh look the farang can speak Thai hahaha. (shocked as if its some advanced language that means wisdom) But only Thai are Thai na.
When i first arrived in Thailand my first 3 years were spent exactly like Chris, i’ve been here 10 years now and things change. But i never paid for sex for the first few years, never needed too. The girls i met were after a BF or curious, or the BGs never asked for any money, who knows why, life was interesting and for a 20 something, perfect!
For me Thailand is still a very love/hate relationship , for a 30 something now. I want different things, but i cant ever leave here with the money i made, and if you don’t think Thai girls are here to exploit us, try the gov and making a business or limited company here. Thailand has only one religion, exploit and take as much as it can from all outsiders, rinse, lather, repeat, smile!
As for Chiang Mai i used to live up there but became bored of the place quite fast. Ive lived in Bangkok for the last 10 years and its hard to get bored here, but frustrated – absolutely. People here are noticeably more aggressive and money minded. But i found that in CM the girls were more lazy and fake.
Everyday we get cheated, exploited, ripped off, lied too, And that’s just going to the market. Try running a company and paying the so called Farang Taxes and accountants! You haven’t even scratched the surface of how bad the place really is until you start and maintain a successful business here. It is a shark infested pit of stereotypes, and we are the meat. I would just love to have one single day where i don’t get played, just one day.
One piece of advise when winning Thais, raise you voice! seriously most farangs are under the impression that raising your voice to Thais will get you looked at or booted out. Its a lie, Thais shout and scream at each other consistently, just turn on the soaps.
Don’t be the quiet type, speak up. If they think for one second your Jai dee, they will try it on. I guarantee. If you are relaxed and smile a lot your fooked. They are constantly calculating you, when is the best time to exploit your good moods, your kindness. seriously be very aware of this! The trick is they make you happy then open your wallet.
ex. Last month my land land lady wrote in an email to me that i can have 2 month free rent for the year if i agreed to sign the contract because the place will be inhabitable for the next 6 months. I agreed but didn’t sign it yet. She came around the house last week bringing me food (completely out of the blue) she was joking and smiling and we didn’t speak business. she did this a few times then when said okay, lets sign the contract she changes. Oh its too much discount now, cannot give that much. This was after writing it in an email and making it a clear proposition. conclusion: All her behavior, smiles, good will towards me is FAKE and derived from her own self interests and manipulative mind.
Everything they are is a mind game, they see small details and they are like little psycho therapists trying to exploit your good nature or good moods. They are sharks and deserve to be baited as Chris does.
I’ve met thousands and thousands of Thais now from all walks of life, I’ve hired staff and employees from educated to straight out of the jungle. And unfortunately they are all after one thing in common. All of them!
They all have strange illusions that working for farang companies is better than Thai, Having farang husband is better and why is that?
better = less work
better = more jai dee = more money
better = more jai dee = can get away with more
better = easier to lie too
better = cant understand us
I don’t live here for the people, they repulse me more than impress me. I like the weather and the food and the hotels and beaches. And i have exchanged all of the above for genuine friends, family, pension, security, educated conversations and spiritually evolved people. yes i sold out!
After a while when you realize what the sacrifice is, its only natural that we become bitter, jaded. Ce la vie.
Sometimes i read the posts about people loving Thailand and never getting problems, and how nice the Thai people are. I start to think maybe i’m wrong.
But last week in a pattaya hotel i met a 50 year old Thai woman with her half farang daughter of about 20 years old. They were sitting by the pool and i got chatting. The woman owned a and worked in a successful Thai restaurant, she wasnt lazy but was loaded, obviously married a farang 30 years ago. She had traveled to more countries than me, and in style too. And here she was back for a 2 week vacation in her home country.
She had lived out of thailand for about 30 years, she was definitely an ex bar girl type, but she wasnt stupid. Infact what she told me shocked me, i was like wow, what a refreshing change, someone who is real!
She told me she hates coming back to Thailand sometimes, because the people are so dishonest, Thai people say one thing and smile, but inside can be thinking a completely different, thing. She had lost all that xenophobic crap and was a joy to chat with, infact she was the wisest Thai i’ve ever met, for the simple reason – She admitted it all, and could reason without that brainwashed xenophobic crap.
Here she was telling me how she just got ripped off taking a bus or taxi and she got ripped off in the hotel, and she spoke perfect Thai too. And i was telling her what the real prices are these days. She was pissed with her own people, and basically said fook em all, i wont be coming back to this shit hole.
Here was a Thai saying to me that yes, everything you think is true, you are nothing to them just an atm. Your not the only one who hates it, which is why she doesn’t want to live in Thailand anymore and will always live abroad.
She wowed me this woman, completely! because after living here for 10 years not even my wife can see colour vision, its all black and white and emotionally retarded.
The majority of farangs come here just to sleep with everything, and get some beach and weather and cheap lifestyles.
Others, they are trying to find a better wife than the x trollop back home that took the house, car, kids. Thai women are great they say! they don’t complain so much.
Is that wrong?
Well its a bit like swapping a Rottweiler for a shark, but sweet dreams are made of these.
I can definitely say the younger generation of Thai women are way worse than 10 years ago. Now, more lazier than ever and with many more issues. I’m surprised really because i thought they may get better, but sadly education never does here.
Some of us praise how amazing Thailand is and how nice the people are and how they never have any problems. Others say how much they loath the place but still live here regardless – like me!
For those of us who know the truth, There is less good here than bad and that’s a fact.
For me i live a quiet semi retired life, i don’t go out clubbing anymore, occasionally do a weekend in Pattaya for a reality check. Occassionally go to Khao sarn road to look at all the lost travel type souls trying to find themselves in drink and tattoos and piercings. Then realize im glad im not back home, and this is the lesser of evils.
Then i come back home to my big house and garden and spend my time pursuing solitary hobbies or business ventures. Life is better when keeping away from all Thais except for a few friends and family.
Bars and bar flies are the last people i want to speak with, not because i think they are doing anything wrong. Living here is like a broken record, i’ve heard every story a million times, every WTF, every police raid, every BG shocker, seen it all and its just a broken record of despair, because the fact is, it is going on day after day.
Getting bitten in a club, yep thats not so bad lol.
Wait until you get your neck cut in your sleep, your hand smashed with a coffee flask in a car, a motorcycle gang paid to beat you up for chatting to a girl, bottles thrown at your head, your passport set on fire and your thrown in the Bangkok hilton because an alleged taxi driver and his buddy that just so happens to be sitting next to him, witness your motorbike hit his taxi, except it didn’t.
These days i dont bother chasing after women to see if i can score a little mouse ear. once you have got your ego in check and have been there and done that a few hundred times. The novelty wears off.
If i fancy a quick jump ill go and hit a gogo or soapy. Usually that quashes my caveman instincts for a few months and i don’t think about it anymore. As for morals, living in Thailand is like devolution, i was a better person before i stayed here that’s for sure.
But we are the products of our enviroment (eventually) And unless you become a monk i don’t see any inspirational folk.
That was a good post.
there speaks somebody who knows – I have been here for 4 years but can’t say I came here because I love Thais – lesser of the two evils? yes spot on! great post
“i was a better person before i stayed here” I think everyone can relate to this saying!
Totally agree with you! I have been here 20 years working, and i could tell you a few tales too! I too love Thailand, for the weather, my way of life i have made for myself the food etc. I don’t do the bars and deal with Thai people as little as possible. Couldn’t trust them as far as i could throw them!! I too have had bad dealings with Thais, but you learn fast, or you get burnt. You have to become selfish, and go one better than Thais. I have dated high so/low so women, educated/uneducated and a good woman is VERY hard to find. The best ones (Thai women) are the ones that have lived abroad, and then they really see how shallow, materialistic and money obsessed they are! I met a great Thai woman who had lived and taught in India for many years. She was a great lady, who constantly took the piss out of Thais ha ha!
You have to find your little niche in life and enjoy it!
that was the best reads ever on the reailty of life in Thailand..thanks for sharing it… I think even the monks are in the same bracket as the others , I lived for a while in a small village 80 % of the folk lived in tin huts and had fuck all, the monks house would have not looked out of place in my road at home..and its a nice road..! had all the trimmings of a western dwelling..
Another monk story, i was driving up a mountain road in the Khao Yai area few years back, and see the single file line of monks ,walking bare foot in the midday sun, boiling hot, one of them is holding a bottle of water upside down waving it at the cars.. I had a load of water in the car so i turned around to drive back to him to give it to him thinking that will be nice thing to do..on stopping and seeing i was a westerner (ATM) he starts asking for money to the girl i was with as soon as the window has gone down, she is doing all the hands together, bowing, and hands him 100 baht then “the humble monk “starts asking for more even saying along the lines of come on you could give at least a 1,000…on that note the bottle of water he was going to get was thrown in the back seat, i cranked up the air con and drove off, even the monks the proper monks not the fake sukhumvit ones, can make you even more cynical than before..the bloody monks…amazing Thailand..
awesome posts from all…
bumrush, great views and info.. my plan was/has been to move to thailand for a long time.. but just dont have a way to make as much of an income as i did in Australia, if i lived in thailand and then i wouldnt have the same experience i have when i go for a trip over ever few month.
i have just moved to Singapore from Australia.. it gets me away from the idiocracy and mundane life i had been living in sydney for the past 10 years.. i had never been to singapore before, and i was on a holiday in thailand a few months ago when i got asked to head over for an interview.. i made a one day flight from BKK to SG and accepted the job on the spot, one of the main selling points was i could still have a normalish life in SG and make good money and after doing a day trip for the interview it gave me the idea that i could literally go to thailand every other weekend..
so i am one step closer to thailand – the mistress has dragged me closer.. still dont know if my psyche is ready for full time life in Thailand.. its one of those places.. you cant live with it and cant live without it.. and when you are not there you would do anything to get there.. crazy shit!!
I had a drunken whore from Korea bite be once in Pattaya. No reason at all. We were in Lucifer’s Disco and it was more or less the same thing as what happened to you, but she bit my upper arm on the back side. Took everything I had not to get a few of the Thai girls I know well to thump her down walking street.